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garth cartwright wrote:June, your post was fascinating - a few months ago there was a review of the Strummer biog in the Guardian by a female reviewer who opened her rev with a statement along the lines of "no girl ever got the Clash. Only boys could ever like them" etc.
garth cartwright wrote:She didn't like the Joe biog much either. Let's have a think - shouty blokes who say they want a revolution yet accept CBS's shillings and will achieve it by playing reggae badly and singing in cod Jamaican accents and never being funny or tender or sexy. . . hmmm, wonder why the girls dont go for 'em.
garth cartwright wrote:As to my rhetorical statement of "most overrated" I meant as to the books and films and MOjo/Uncut articles that keep pouring out and treat Joe as some kind of latter day Woody Guthrie cum Lenin and the band as the best British band since the Stones etc. I consider White Man In Hammersmith and London Calling 2 of the greatest 45s of the late 70s. There's other good tunes too - unfortunately they tend to be only one or two per album (at most - Rope and Sandinista are berefit).
garth cartwright wrote:The Clash were the band adopted by the music press - and promoted by their manager - as the "peoples" band and they were smart enough to play this up even when playing US stadiums etc.
garth cartwright wrote:The Clash get dumb docos like Julian and Don Lett's efforts
garth cartwright wrote:and all this other veneration and NO CRITICISM - beyond Charlie G, I don't think I've seen a critical word delivered towards em in decades. they are The Clash and they are saints. This is what really rubs.
Jonathan E. wrote:garth cartwright wrote:She didn't like the Joe biog much either. Let's have a think - shouty blokes who say they want a revolution yet accept CBS's shillings and will achieve it by playing reggae badly and singing in cod Jamaican accents and never being funny or tender or sexy. . . hmmm, wonder why the girls dont go for 'em.
You don't know much about girls then, either, Gar? Some girls like it rough.
Jonathan E. wrote:Adam, I'm curious about your use of the word "fake" to describe Strummer (let alone Dylan). Somehow it doesn't quite jibe for me with the "lovely guy" in the next sentence â€” but I suppose basically what makes someone "fake" in your view is my question. Care to explain? .
''There's nothing better if you're having an argument which won't resolve itself in any other way than smashing somebody's face in.''
''Suppose some guy comes up to me and tries to put one over on me and I smash his face up. If he learns something from it, that's creative violence.''
Jonathan E. wrote:Redemption Song is a book that could have used an editor
PS Dayna, where do you get the idea that Strummer tried to follow in his father's career footsteps? Not from Redemption Song surely.
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