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So do we think that the closer a singers voice is to his/her speaking voice the more authentic the emotions expressed? Sounds like a very dodgy proposition to me.
While you lot are enjoying yourselves, I am listening to The Watersons
Charlie wrote:So, now we have a CD's worth of great songs about England or being English, will somebody explain to me while these songs are not the real folk music of our time, rather than the backward looking ballads sung in peculiar voices that nobody uses in real life?
nigel w wrote:Well done. You argue cogently and rationally and I can't really disagree with any of the excellent points you make. And all done without any fat yellow round faces gurning at us, too!
nigel w wrote:I gave the folk awards a miss this year (although I've been just about every other year since they started and it's always a great night out) so I didn't hear Mike Harding's usual pearls. Did he really say that? Are you sure it wasn't one of his (never very funny) jokes? Absolutely unbelievable!
Rob Hall wrote:I dunno. I'm still struggling with why the "English" part of it is important. If you remove the word "English" from Chris' post, then it makes a lot more sense to me.
Rob Hall wrote:Who gives a toss where it comes from or for the nationality of the musicians involved?
Nick Boyes wrote:Kate Rusby V Souad Massi
2 young folk singers get popular so we are told to prefer their earlier stuff
David Flower wrote:changes at Arts Council England [...] involve an almost complete withdrawal of funding to all English folk on the grounds that is discriminatory and no longer in line with their policy of a multi-cultural Britain. This could have a serious knock-on effect. What do you think of that?
MurkeyChris wrote:Rob Hall wrote:I dunno. I'm still struggling with why the "English" part of it is important. If you remove the word "English" from Chris' post, then it makes a lot more sense to me.
Well it's not important, in that the same argument can apply to any type of music. I'm just talking about English traditional music because a) it's the subject of this thread, b) I was responding to Charlie's point on why 'great songs about England or being English [...] are not the real folk music of our time' and c) because I often prefer English folk music to any other kind. This latter point is perhaps very slightly because intellectually I feel I should know about my own culture, but overwhelmingly because for whatever magical reason music moves us, English trad music tends to effect me more than lots of other musics.Rob Hall wrote:Who gives a toss where it comes from or for the nationality of the musicians involved?
Now this I find this an odd comment in a (largely) world music forum. Does Youssou N'Dour (who was excellent last night at the Dome btw) being from Senegal not profoundly effect his music? Wouldn't Ojos de Brujo sound a lot different if they were from somewhere other than Spain? Does Asian Dub Foundation's combined Asian hertiage and Englishness not feed into their work?
Obviously I'm not saying that English music is better or more important than music from elsewhere - except to say that personally I find it rewarding to know about my country's musical culture in the same way that I like to know the geography and history of the place I live in. Just that when music is based in a specific culture it helps to know what that culture is.
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