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Whoa, hold your hosses, my friend. Not read the book (yet) but I favour Richard Dawkins greatly. The only reason I quoted your last sentence, Howard - and urge a bit of caution - is because I've heard that said far too many times before, usually by people on my doorstep......and it ain't Richard Dawkins they're trying to sell me.howard male wrote:If everyone on this planet read this book, and even began to take onboard what it says, there would be hope for the human race.
The interesting thing about religions, from a purely logical point of view (which is admittedly not the strong point of "religion") is that they can't all be right
all I can reply is: you've already told me, Gordon, and we're still talking....Okay, I'm going to come clean. I am actually one of Jehovah's Witnesses (since 91). I don't suppose anyone will talk to me anymore, but hey ho.
a) There is a creator or b) there isn't. I assert both are matters of "faith" since you can't prove either one at this moment in history. However, it is my contention that the evidence for a creator is much stronger than the evidence against.
Gordon Moore wrote:As I see it, and I thought very hard about this before becoming a JW, there are only two positions to take:
a) There is a creator or b) there isn't.
Gordon Moore wrote:The interesting thing about religions, from a purely logical point of view (which is admittedly not the strong point of "religion") is that they can't all be right.
howard male wrote:Firstly, I don't see why we shouldn't be able to have a reasonable discussion on this forum on this subject - this is the books section and the great CG in the DJ booth hasn't said that only certain books can be discussed.
So, in the spirit of balance, I'd appreciate it if you could briefly state what you feel the strongly outweighing evidence for a creator is. If you don't want to bother, then no worries, we'll just move on.
Dayna wrote:I could tell you where I stand as far as my belief in God goes, but I don't expect it would change what anyone else thinks, unless it's what they're open to, so I'd just leave it at that.
normand wrote:Here's the scenario:
Con M, Norman D and Quasimodo are sitting talking.
Con says, "I used to be a Catholic".
Norman says, "That's nothing, I used to be a Jew".
Quasimodo says, "Don't make me laugh, you two. I used to be a hunchback".
Yeah, there is that - who is it who said "I'm not a Jew, I'm Jew-ish"? That probably goes for all religions. And the Quasimodo analogy also works well as a metaphor so far as Catholicism goes.
A request: if you wish to have a theological discussion, then please clearly label it as such and put it somewhere where I will not stumble across it by accident, as it is positively the last thing I wish to read here.
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