The greatest soul/R&B track by a white artist

[Des]

1 You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin - Righteous Brothers
2 Gotta See Jane - R Dean Taylor

.....umm......

[felonious munk]

And the point of this post is what?

[Des]

....err....does there have to be a point to it?

This might be more to your taste:
http://www.charliegillett.com/phpBB2/vi ... 763a1f3c73

[Adam Blake]

Greatest soul/r'n'b track by a BRITISH artist, for my money: "Gimme Some Lovin'" by The Spencer Davis Group featuring the then spectacular (subsequently rather less spectacular) Stevie Winwood.

Best song ABOUT the blues by a white artist: "Willie and Laura Mae Jones" by Tony Joe White - who, having been born inside the culture, may have had the necessary good taste to distance himself from performing in metaphorical Blackface.

But this is a VERY contentious topic!! Eggshells required...

[Des]

Forgot some Robert Palmer tunes.

[felonious munk]

....err....does there have to be a point to it?

Is Gotta see Jane Pop or Soul for a start.
Any other examples of soul sung by a cracker.

[Des]

I think you're taking this all a bit too seriously mate.

[gordonfmoore]

I don't like soul. Neither motown or northern. I just don't get it.

I like Young Americans by Bowie, but is it soul?

As for RnB, what's that then? No, I'm not joking, seriously, what is the difference between the blues, which I do get after having suffered babe troubles in my past life and rhythm and blues? Dayna, please explain it to me.

[{{d(-0-)b}}]

well there is no such thing as the 'greatest' but for starters you could n't do worse than ...,

perming any one from ten from the album 'do right man' by Dan Penn.

Infact one of them will be on MY next cd relay disc.

just when I thought things were 'picking up' gordon of moore wrote, and I quote ;-

As for RnB, what's that then? No, I'm not joking, seriously, what is the difference between the blues, which I do get after having suffered babe troubles in my past life and rhythm and blues?

no comment m'lud... I rest my case for the defence.

sorry, you did nt make the guest list and there is no free pass for you. I'm afraid you'll have to go to the back of the queue.

bye bye now!

ps 'I like friends' it was a great show, good sharp humour along with my new favourite 'becker'

[Adam Blake]

.As for RnB, what's that then? No, I'm not joking, seriously, what is the difference between the blues, which I do get after having suffered babe troubles in my past life and rhythm and blues? Dayna, please explain it to me.

Sorry I'm not Dayna, but in her absence may I say that I think R'n'b is and always has been pop music made by black people.

[ritchie]

Rythmn & Blues has generally been my favourite 'type' of music, that is to say most of the songs that I like have been 'grouped' into that genre.

I understand what you say Adam

may I say that I think R'n'b is and always has been pop music made by black people.

But I think there is a big difference between 'pop music' and 'popular music'.

possibly Rythmn & Blues may have been 'more catchy' and appealed to 'the white boy's ears' more.

can blue men sing the whites?

[c hristian]

not to beat on a dead horse, but my vote on this is for David Bowie's "Young Americans"

[nikki akinjinmi]

Hello,

I do have an issue with the greatest soul/r&b ...blah, blah blah tag...but I will contribute to the discussion, to say that Jeff Buckley's "Everybody Here Wants You" (from the album Sketches For My Sweetheart, The Drunk) is pretty soulful to my ears. (It's a contender).

[Charlie]

the surprising result is that most of the contenders are Brits or from Louisiana

House of the Rising Sun - Eric Burdon (with the Animals)
several by Steve Winwood (with the Spencer Davis Group, see above)
Who Needs You so Bad - Gary Walker (from Another Saturday Night)
Try to Find Another Man - Tommy McLain and Clint West (ditto)
Before I Grow Too Old - Tommy McLain (ditto)
All Right Now - Paul Rodgers (with Free)
Baby Please Don't Go - Van Morrison (with Them)

exceptions:
You've Lost That Lovin Feelin by the Righteous Brothers (see above)
your choice - by the Rascals (sometimes Young)

but never:
Janis, Joe Cocker or Robert Plant

[garth cartwright]

A late note to say Willie DeVille is probably my fave white guy sings r'n'b. He's cut a couple of fantastic albums with Eddie Bo, Dr John and other New Orleans musicians where he takes tunes like Ruler Of My Heart and Big Blue Diamonds for a soulful stroll. On his live in Scandinavia acoustic album he does a fine version of Let It Be Me alongside lots of other good stuff. He also handled Andre Williams' Bacon Fat superbly on the Horse Of A Different Color album. Did a real stompin' take on Fred McDowell's Goin Over The Hill there too. As far as i'm concerned, Willie is the most underrated Western musician alive today! Anyone else out there share my Willie enthusiasm? I know Charlie used to DJ him some times.

I'd also throw in Daryl Hall as a fine white boy singing soulful. And Janis's handling of Garnett Mimms and Bobby Womack songs on Pearl shows just what a great singer she was shaping up to be.

Speaking of Louisiana: surely Bobby Charles should get a look in? We all must know the tale of Chess sending for him and when he got off the Greyhound in Chi-town and everyone dispersed Leonard C pointed at him and said "Bobby Charles?" he answered to the affirmative to which Leonard answered with one of those expressions not acceptable on this forum!