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Recordings from WOMAD, Monday 28 July

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:10 pm
by Charlie
email correspondence:

from CG to BBC producer Felix Carey:

Didn't manage to stay up to listen last night, Felix, but when I go to Listen Again now, although the billing suggest it will be Mary Ann, Lopa and myself presenting highlights from WOMAD, it is actually still playing Lucy Duran's highlights from earlier in the day

Charlie
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reply from Felix:

Hello Charlie

This message from the folks at the BBC website:

Dear colleagues,

Some Radio 3 programmes are currently unavailable in iPlayer because of a technical fault.

Engineers are working to correct these problems.

You may wish to refer correspondents to this help page.

The Radio 3 help page apologises for the inconvenience caused.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/help/current-issues.shtml

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:35 am
by Charlie
It's working properly now

www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/worldon3

Womad World on 3

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:28 pm
by Ken Josenhans
The Womad edition of WORLD ON 3 is not working for two listeners in the USA. I'm in Michigan, Mickey's in Austin; we just tried it a few moments ago, and we both get the "not available" error message on the Womad World on 3 show.

(Other BBC shows have been working fine for us via the new iPlayer software.)

Re: Womad World on 3

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:25 am
by Charlie
Ken Josenhans wrote:The Womad edition of WORLD ON 3 is not working for two listeners in the USA. I'm in Michigan, Mickey's in Austin; we just tried it a few moments ago, and we both get the "not available" error message on the Womad World on 3 show.

(Other BBC shows have been working fine for us via the new iPlayer software.)

reply from Roberto at BBC Radio 3 Interactive:

Since the move to the iPlayer last week we have been battling with a huge amount of inexplicable errors, I am not even trying to list them and explain.

We are aware of problems and we are manually fixing them, although that is very time consuming as the new systems are meant to be automated and "invisible" which means we have to actually hack our own site to repair what's wrong.

Sorry, we'll try to fix everything as soon as possible!

Roberto Battista
BBC Radio 3 Interactive

World on 3, Womad + iPlayer Radio

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:44 pm
by Ken Josenhans
Thanks for passing along my report, Charlie.

Just as an updated report, not to nag endlessly: I am still getting the "audio stream is unavailable at this time" message for the Womad edition of "World on 3."

(And, I'm resigning myself to the idea that I might not get to hear this one before the scheduled Monday expiration. )

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A digression here, and words of praise for the BBC tech folks.

I do appreciate the vast amount of work that has gone into the iPlayer upgrade for radio. After the initial shakeout week, every program that I have wanted to listen to was in place -- except for Charlie's Womad show, grrrr. :) The Proms, in particular, have been working flawlessly. (Did readers here enjoy the Folk and World Music Proms?)

In addition, the Radio 3 streams to the USA now sound ** gorgeous **, even though they remain at 64K Real Audio for us non-licence-fee-payers. There's a high-frequency top end and a sense of "bloom" in the streams which I have not heard in the previous 6 years I've been listening; for the first time I'm finding the streams pleasant to listen to. In short, it really sounds like music now! (In the old days, I'd put up with the impaired sound quality because the content was of such compelling interest.)

Re: World on 3, Womad + iPlayer Radio

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:55 am
by Charlie
Ken Josenhans wrote:Just as an updated report, not to nag endlessly: I am still getting the "audio stream is unavailable at this time" message for the Womad edition of "World on 3."

(And, I'm resigning myself to the idea that I might not get to hear this one before the scheduled Monday expiration.

Latest update from Roberto Battista at BBC Radio 3 Interactive:

Hello,

The last couple of weeks have been quite difficult, with the launch of the iPlayer, the change of encoding tools, the change of publishing tools, the change of streaming server, the redesign of the website format, the PROMS and everything else all at the same time...

We did have several problems with missing programmes, delayed publishing and so on.

Generally problems are solved quite quickly.

We are doing our best to get back to normality, but I am afraid for a few more weeks some problem will be inevitable.

To ensure that problems are dealt with promptly make sure all warning messages are sent to the r3idoctor@bbc.co.uk address, that goes to an inbox we all have access to and is checked daily.

Roberto

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:38 pm
by Ken Josenhans
Thanks again, Charlie. I got the August 4 installment of World on 3, with more Womad sets & hosted by Mary Ann Kennedy, just fine. Again: the new sound quality on Radio 3 streams to the USA is simply *gorgeous*, even though the stream remains at 64K Real Audio for us. That must be the "change in encoding tools" which Roberto mentions. (I bet it's even more incredible within the UK, where I have heard it's now 192K streaming MP3. Yum....)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:44 am
by Paul Sherratt
Ken,

I recommend you catch, if at all possible, the 18th August edition of World on 3. The sounds stream rather well when you're at the festival, too !

Ever been ?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:22 pm
by Ken Josenhans
"Ever been?" Heavens no. WOMAD in the UK is way, way out of my travel budget these days. Getting to the Philadelphia Folk Festival last weekend -- about 600 miles -- is about as far as I can afford to travel for art these days. I was fortunate enough to travel to Europe twice in the 1990s and that will likely be it for this lifetime.

I will try to get to this week's "World on 3" -- I do wish the playlist was up, sigh -- but I am somewhat pressed for online listening time due to a recent obsession with the Proms. :) That's what happens with Radio 3 -- come for the roots music, stick around for the classical music....

Womad 2008 complete sets?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:45 pm
by Ken Josenhans
Speaking of Womad 2008: Does anyone know if Radio 3 will be putting up 20 or so complete sets from the festival, as they have done for the last five years or so? I'm not finding anything about this on the Radio 3 web site.

Re: Womad 2008 complete sets?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:16 pm
by Charlie
Ken Josenhans wrote:SpeakI'm not finding anything about this on the Radio 3 web site.

I recommend sending an email to that address in Roberto's message in the entry a couple of messages higher than this one, Ken. Roberto is very conscientious.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:12 pm
by Chris P
Me:

are there any plans to make some full sets by artists available via the iPlayer, as done by listen again in previous years ?

The concert by Wasis Diop was acclaimed as one of the highlights, and hearing a couple of songs on Lopa Kothari's World on 3, makes me very much want to hear the rest - as would many others judging by feedback at World Music forums.


Roberto:
Hello,

I am afraid this year there were no plans nor resources to publish the audio on the Womad site.
It is a shame, but beyond our control.

Roberto

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:34 pm
by Quintin
This is extraordinary. What does it mean "no plans"? That no one thought to get the necessary rights i.e. forgot? Makes you wonder why R3 spent shed loads of money recording (as we know they did) a lot of the concerts if they weren't going to make use of all that time and effort and put them on the website as they have since at least 2001. Rather strikes me that this chimes in with the plans to axe the annual awards i.e. World Music has been downgraded as a R3 priority. I really don't think that the "resources" involved in the scheme of things would cost much either. I wonder if Charlie can find out whats going on?