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The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:15 pm
by Philellinas
If the prime qualification for a team to do well in the World Cup is lack of charisma England should prosper. Rooney, although he is a talented footballer, lacks personal charm and smiling seems foreign to his nature. Terry, Cole A., Lampard, Gerrard...the list is almost endless. I know football, like politics, shouldn't be about (non-)personalities but if gallant England go out in the quarter-finals on penalties in the time-honoured way I shall not be smiling even ruefully. I'll reluctantly transfer my support to Cameron or CameRooney.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:18 pm
by Des
Yes I must admit to never enjoying watching England play, partly because of the reasons you cit, partly because they always get found out even against mediocre sides. I will of course be watching all the England games, but sadly I think that, despite our good run of form in the qualifiers, England will not progress.

I am ready to transfer my allegiances to any number of African teams at the drop of a hat.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:30 pm
by AndyM
England will progress out of their group, but after that......

There are a lot of unlikeable players in the team, I agree, but I retain a fondness for Rooney (no conversationalist, I grant you, but such a trier), David James, Aaron Lennon, Jamie Carragher & Shaun Wright-Phillips.

Other than that, I'm a Spain boy all the way.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:24 am
by Philellinas
My second team, Greece, have just announced their squad and it is reassuring to see that the delightfully named Socrates Papastathopoulos has made the final 23 (why 23?). The monolingual commentators will obviously be hoping that Mr. Papastathopoulos looks on stoically from the bench or that Greece take the early bath. Or they could resort to the subterfuge of calling him Socrates especially if he shows any Brazilian touches. Greek commentators and I will cope somehow...All you have to remember is that the stress falls on the "o" before the suffix -poulos. You still have a few days to warm up. Philippos

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:12 pm
by Philellinas
It's such a shame that my third team, Armenia, did not qualify because then Ian would have had a team of -ians (as in Sarkissian) to support. Oh well, it is his loss. You will be relieved to know that I do not have a fourth team...yet. But if England and Greece fall by the wayside I may have to support any side that's left out of a misplaced sense of disloyalty.
I'll back the winners eventually.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:37 pm
by kevin
As long as the double handballing cheat Thierry Henry doesn't prosper I don't really mind who wins.

I imagine it'll be one of the usual suspects.

My prediction for the semi-finals are Brazil, Spain, Argentina & England.

I watched a nice little film the other day called Sixty Six. It's a comedy about a young Jewish boy whose barmitzvah clashes with the World Cup final. Eddie Marsan and Helena Bonham-Carter play his parents in this warm hearted film.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:54 pm
by uiwangmike
Philellinas wrote:My second team, Greece, have just announced their squad and it is reassuring to see that the delightfully named Socrates Papastathopoulos has made the final 23 (why 23?). The monolingual commentators will obviously be hoping that Mr. Papastathopoulos looks on stoically from the bench or that Greece take the early bath.

Certainly commentators in this part of the world will be hoping to see Greece ceasing to trouble the scorers after they face our Taeguk Warriors on Saturday. The educational TV channel here shows a late-night classic film on Saturdays, and just as it happens, this week it's Never on Sunday. So anyway, a somewhat Hellenic weekend to look forward to, and I'll try to take whatever outcome it brings philosophically.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:36 pm
by Philellinas
uiwangmike wrote:...our Taeguk Warriors...


Are South Korea sponsored by some dreaded 4X4 company? They sound rather aggressive and inconsiderate. Anyway, I confidently expect Hellas on Earth (as one of my undergraduate friends called Greece) to triumph on Saturday. May the better team (i.e. my boys)win...

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:54 pm
by Dominic
Philellinas wrote:Rooney, although he is a talented footballer, lacks personal charm and smiling seems foreign to his nature.

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Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:43 pm
by AndyM
kevin wrote:
I watched a nice little film the other day called Sixty Six. It's a comedy about a young Jewish boy whose barmitzvah clashes with the World Cup final. Eddie Marsan and Helena Bonham-Carter play his parents in this warm hearted film.



This is on TV tonight (in the UK) - ITV1, 10.35. There's spooky.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:38 pm
by NormanD
Oops, straying onto the Footie thread (which shows I still read it). I liked "66", though it has a fundamental plot flaw, which I won't mention. If the flaw weren't there it would knock a hole in the whole film, so it had to stay.....

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:35 am
by kevin
NormanD wrote:Oops, straying onto the Footie thread (which shows I still read it). I liked "66", though it has a fundamental plot flaw, which I won't mention. If the flaw weren't there it would knock a hole in the whole film, so it had to stay.....



I'm intrigued now. Spill the beans if you please.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:38 am
by NormanD
The Barmitzvah is always on a Saturday morning. The Sabbath (shabbas) is designated a day for no work (which includes food preparation, driving / using public transport / even taking a taxi). As the party couldn't be prepared, or relatives and guests get there, it would always be on the following day, Sunday.

So, the party would not have clashed with the World Cup final (Saturday, July 30, 1966). Unless they'd decided to hold it on the shabbas anyway - though it's doubtful if they'd have gone against religious convention.

But why spoil a good story?

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:49 pm
by gary booth
I agree with Andy, England to progress out of the Group but I think out in the next game.
And it's Spain all the way.
England...
Problems with the keeper,
1st choice Captain, Rio, out of the tournament
King lasts 45 mins.
Barry not fit for first game... or any game? - "I will only take players that are fit": Capello. Wright Phillips - the wrong right sided City player out there. Adam Johnson left to sit on a sofa on James Corden's show.
Rooney running around like a blue arse fly because he feels he has to in this formation.
Heskey & Crouch - perhaps the least confident strikers in the history of the game.

Re: The forthcoming footiefest

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:50 pm
by Hugh Weldon
If there was a slogan competition for the England brand, it would have to be something like 'doomed to disappoint - every time' - or almost every time. Isn't the narrative of every national competition insanely over-optimistic build up in levels of expectation, progress out of the group stage with a few hiccups followed by a defeat by somebody infinitely more skilful? In fact sometimes it's a relief when they're booted out so I can transfer my allegiance to a team playing attractive football, usually Spain or Argentina or Holland.

I suppose all the flag showing and waving provides an outlet for the need to celebrate something - I don't think it's much to do with patriotism - but for me supporting Ingerland reminds me of following my local non-league side through a couple of early rounds of the FA cup until the reality check against a really professional outfit. I wish it were otherwise, I really do. But nothing I've seen so far this competition leads me to believe things will be any different this time.

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