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Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:21 pm
by AndyM
So, the dream is over. But how many were really dreaming ? And about what ?

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:37 pm
by Des
Perhaps if you'd spent a little less time on the forum and a bit more time practising, you would have won.

Come on, Tim!

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:51 pm
by AndyM
I think most would agree that the attempt by some newspapers to call the irredeemably stolid and charisma-evacuated Mr Henman 'Tiger Tim' ranks as the most risible such attempt ever made.

In our house we called him Tadpole Tim.

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:35 pm
by Con Murphy
No Federer or Nadal. It's like Man Utd did a Devon Loch, taking Chelsea out in the process. The dream's back on.

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:53 pm
by Des
Whooooooooooooo! Come on Tim!

Andy Murray

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:52 pm
by Philellinas
Not so fast, gentlemen. There are still two considerable opponents in Murray's way: David Ferrer and Novak Djokovic, who may have peaked a little early against Roger Federer. [I wonder why Djokovic is called a Serbian by the BBC. Surely he's a Serb. Likewise Carlos Tevez of Manchester City is often referred to by BBC footie commentators as "the Argentine". No, that's the country. Don't get me started on misuse of modal verbs (might/may especially)]. Rant over. Back to the tennis...If Murray does win this major it will put an end to all those tedious discussions speculating on when or if he'll do it.

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:48 pm
by Hugh Weldon
Phil

misuse of modal verbs (might/may especially)


I thought these were subjunctives - 'may have peaked' indicates doubt or uncertainty whether he has, and the mood is thus subjunctive. Your more confident assertion 'it will put an end to...' is on the other hand indicative. Aren't modals things like should, could, would etc. I merely ask as a non-tennis fan but ever curious about language, you appear to have a firmer grasp on these matters.

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:24 pm
by AndyM
Djokovic looks like Beaker from The Muppets.

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:12 am
by Philellinas
Hugh Weldon wrote:Phil

misuse of modal verbs (might/may especially)


I thought these were subjunctives - 'may have peaked' indicates doubt or uncertainty whether he has, and the mood is thus subjunctive. Your more confident assertion 'it will put an end to...' is on the other hand indicative. Aren't modals things like should, could, would etc. I merely ask as a non-tennis fan but ever curious about language, you appear to have a firmer grasp on these matters.


At the risk of hijacking another thread, Hugh...My terminology may (uncertainty thereby implied) not be correct. My TEFL bible, Michael Swan's "Practical English Usage", is not to hand and my halcyon daze of teaching English in Thessaloniki is but a distant memory. What I have in mind is the confusion between may, might and could. John Murray and Alan Green, whose commentaries on Radio 5 I otherwise enjoy, are the worst offenders. For example:-
"Gary Lineacre may have scored " suggests uncertainty (did the ball cross the line?) or we are waiting for some adjudication.
What John and Alan meant to say was "Gary Lineacre could have scored", i.e. he had the opportunity to score but fluffed it (I know how he feels). This is the burden of my message. I now hand you back to Melbourne and some inconsequential tennis match.

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:03 pm
by AndyM
Lineker, not Linacre, if we're talking about precision.

And go Murray!!

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:06 am
by AndyM
Once again - go Murray!!!

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:23 pm
by AndyM
Buggeration.

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:46 pm
by David Flower
from what I saw Murray was never at the races today. But surely it's unfair that one finalist gets a full 24 hours more recuperation time than the other before the final. TV scheduling is no doubt to blame

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:09 pm
by AndyM
Something definitely in that, David. Mind you, Djokovic was so on fire today he'd have beaten Nadal, Federer, Sampras, Borg.......

Re: Andy Murray

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:01 pm
by Des
Ridiculous how this crimps my day a bit. I'm not even a big tennis fan.