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Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:26 pm
by David Flower
got 1 and 3, struggling with that second one

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:29 pm
by richardh
Arterial as in " relating to artery"?

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:43 pm
by Martin Owen
B.O.U.N.D. (10)

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:24 pm
by David Flower
a) aorta
b) stereo system
c) hemingway

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:35 am
by Philellinas
David Flower wrote:a) aorta
b) stereo system
c) hemingway


...are the right answers although with cryptic crosswords as with sudoku you usually know when you have filled in the grid correctly. It's a lot more difficult without the grid and the other clues. Go to the top of the class, David.

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:36 pm
by Dominic
kevin wrote:H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O. (5)

This was used in passing in Being Human last night! (see Howard's review elsewhere)

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:55 pm
by NormanD
Philellinas wrote:
David Flower wrote:a) aorta
b) stereo system
c) hemingway


...are the right answers although with cryptic crosswords as with sudoku you usually know when you have filled in the grid correctly. It's a lot more difficult without the grid and the other clues. Go to the top of the class, David.
Would David (or Phil) be so kind as to show their workings out, please?

c) is an anagram of "why enigma" (with 'variation' suggesting an anagram). This figures.
b) is an anagram of "some setters" ('sloppily' being the hint) = but a 'y' is missing. Where is the absent 'y' suggested?
a) I'm still none the wiser.

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:19 pm
by Philellinas
(b) 'y' is the ultimate in technology
(a) Arterial route = aorta A T(-junction) in ROA (unfinished road) repair (=anagram of 3 letters around T).
Must try harder, Norman.

P.S. Martin's B.O.U.N.D. (10) is "spellbound".

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:01 pm
by David Flower
hi Norman

sloppily is one of those words, like broken, changed, mixed, upset etc, etc that tell you it's an anagram. In this case 'some setters'. The 'y' is 'the ultimate in technology'. Together that gives you the 12 letters to make the answer. The definition part of the clue is 'hi-fi'. Good clue, as, like the aorta one, it also makes its own sense when you read it

The Hemingway clue is a bit clumsy and could have been better written as 'isn't Elgar' isn't much of a definition. But again it's an anagram, this time indicated by the word 'variation' as you saw. In this case 'why enigma' . When solving, it's often worth initially checking the number of letters in the solution to see if you have an anagram on your hands.

Arterial route with a junction in unfinished road repair (5). Aorta. Another sort of anagram. This time the definition comes first - arterial route - 'with a junction' , which means an 'a' . Then a 't', 't' being one of those abbreviations used in crosswords (shirt might be another for 't' though I've never seen it used). So a followed by the 't', 'in', i.e. inside 'unfinished road'. which means 'roa'. Repair tells you to scramble those 'roa' letters. So you get the anagram. 'a' + 't' inside a rearranged 'roa'

I'd be happy to explain all these conventions used in crosswords. We could even do 'crossword club' where we all get the same Guardian (or whatever) crossword , all try and do it, then go through it

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:46 am
by Tom McPhillips
I think it's wonderful that cryptic crosswords exist, and (mercifully) other people can solve them...

For me it's the ultimate definition of "life's too short"!

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:08 pm
by David Flower
yes , they are a compulsive waste of time, but then you could say that about a number of things! I like to believe those occasional reports that claim they keep your brain going...and try to limit an effort to 20 minutes and see how much I complete

Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:30 am
by Philellinas
More cryptic creativity:-
(I) He, for example, is the talk of the House of Lords! (5, 3)
(II) Q. Will I like this lollipop?
A. - - - - ! (4,2,3,3)
Both are neat and inventive.

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:01 pm
by NormanD
(II) Suck it and see

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:12 pm
by Philellinas
NormanD wrote:(II) Suck it and see


Correct, Norman. You could be a contender for a prize at this rate...when the days of austerity and frugality are over.

Re: Cryptic crosswords

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:50 pm
by NormanD
I'm just trying harder, as you advised / exhorted. David will have to help out on the first clue, though I suspect that 'for example' is a prompt for the letters eg

The Private Eye crossword would have made the clue for (II) a lot more saucy and suggestive, as only it can.