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In Praise of.......George Orwell on Folk Music

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:33 pm
by NormanD
I've been reading George Orwell's writings for Tribune, from the 1940s, a collection of his random thoughts, comments, observations and criticisms. Here's one to share:

[b]“As I Pleaseâ€

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:56 pm
by Chris P
June Tabor and Martin Simpson did a version to die for back in the late 70s/or early 80s on the fab album : "A Cut Above"

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:10 pm
by Adam Blake
Chris Potts wrote:June Tabor and Martin Simpson


I bet they were reading Orwell's Tribune columns when I was reading Enid Blyton...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:30 am
by uiwangmike
Admiral Benbow seems so familiar from folk club days that I find it hard to think there's no record of it. Wasn't Dives and Lazarus done by The Young Tradition? And there is at least one (somewhat mutilated) version on record of Green Grow the Rushes.
http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=GylZ1mK934U

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:45 am
by rongould
uiwangmike wrote:Admiral Benbow seems so familiar from folk club days that I find it hard to think there's no record of it. Wasn't Dives and Lazarus done by The Young Tradition? And there is at least one (somewhat mutilated) version on record of Green Grow the Rushes.
http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=GylZ1mK934U


Same here, sung everywhere all the time.

Surely his (yes he was ) descendant Steve Benbow made a recording of it some time.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:57 am
by Adam Blake
I've got a recording of Sandy Denny singing "Green Grow The Rushes" from a BBC radio show in 1966. I think it's been issued officially now. I always assumed that all these songs exist in "worthier" (ie, to me barely listenable) versions than the Sandy/Fairport/Steeleye/Pentangle stuff I grew up with and still love.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:55 am
by uiwangmike
To go off on a tangent (Is that allowed?), what a mysterious song that is. A long, long time ago, The BBC Third Programme broadcast an hour-long investigation into the history and possible meaning(s) of Green Grow the Rushes, which, as far as I recall, left me little the wiser. For the current state of knowledge, gaps in knowledge, and conjecture, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Grow_the_Rushes%2C_O
Even the Wikipedia article reads in places like a Rambling Sid intro.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:16 pm
by NormanD
uiwangmike wrote:To go off on a tangent (Is that allowed?)
As though you need to ask!

Some of Orwell's comments are old-fashioned ('gramaphone companies'), but the conclusion applies much the same to current times.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:51 pm
by Neil Foxlee
The Admiral Benbow is the name of the inn in Treasure Island where the story starts.

Good old George (or rather Eric - Blair, ironically) - thou (along with Dickens) shouldst be living at this hour.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:13 pm
by joel
Neil Foxlee wrote:Good old George (or rather Eric - Blair, ironically) - thou (along with Dickens) shouldst be living at this hour.
Ay, that's the truth.

Re: In Praise of.......George Orwell on Folk Music

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:03 pm
by Vic Smith
NormanD wrote:
I believe no recording of this song exists,
norman


A well out of date response, I know, but I've only just arrived here.

Admiral Benbow has been recorded many times over the years by England's leading traditional singing family The Copper Family of Rottingdean in Sussex, most recently on their album Coppersongs 3.

It is also printed in two of their books -

Bob Copper A Song For Every Season Heinemann 1971

The Copper Family Song Book - A Living Tradition Coppersongs 1995

and it is on their website at http://www.thecopperfamily.com/songs/co ... miral.html