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Levantine Thread (Turkish, Greek, etc)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:18 pm
by Chris P
Thread bump started (no jumper leads attached) for Levantine music and other matters.

Philellinas wrote:If you beat the drum for Levantine music (as I do), a knowledge of Greek and Turkish are extremely useful as English is not always the passe-partout. If you look up the details of a Greek CD on a site like you can select the "In English" option. However, all you get is transliterated Greek. Today I came across "v' foni" and I defy any non-Greek speaker to decipher this. In fact, the second letter in the Greek alphabet is pronounced "vee" and is used to denote "second" while "foni" means "voice" and the whole thing means "on backing vocals". Here endeth the first lesson.
If you buy CDs from a company like Kalan in Istanbul sometimes you receive comprehensive background notes and lyrics in about 5 languages courtesy partly of the estimable Bob Beer. The neglected album "Yahudice" is an excellent example. When, however, Kalan have no Beer money you get very little. For example, another early neglected Kalan CD , "Yana yana" by Fikret Kizilok, only has the names of the musicians, including fortunately Erkan Ogur.
You monolinguists should have paid more attention at school.

Chris Potts wrote:Welcome to the forum 'Phil the Greek', good to have another Turkish music fan on board, and one who knows Erkan Ogur's music to boot. My Greek appreciation isn't up to par, but I do like Psarantonis (something - perhaps a rejected Cd you gave me - tells me you don't tho').
How about opening up a seperate 'Levantine' thread here for Turkish and Greek music....?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:36 pm
by Chris P
What else does Levantine include ?
Syria ? Jordan ? ex Ottoman empire : Bosnia, other parts of Eastern Europe ? Armenia ?? Iran ???

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:02 pm
by CantSleepClownsWillGetMe
To confuse the issue, Wikipedia says 'Levantine' is generally taken to mean "Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Jordan, Palestinian territories, Iraq, Cyprus, and parts of Turkey and Egypt"

But then it goes on to say that the name has meant different areas at different times in history - see

Anyway, who cares. We know what we mean, don't we?!?