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Lyrics that haunt you

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:50 pm
by David Flower
there are certain lyrics over the years that still haunt me

an example is Zappa's assertion that "Brown Shoes Don't Make it" which I've struggled to get over, assuming such shoes are totally uncool. I'm just about over it now, but only just

any others?

Re: Lyrics that haunt you

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:59 pm
by Ian A.
David Flower wrote:an example is Zappa's assertion that "Brown Shoes Don't Make it" which I've struggled to get over, assuming such shoes are totally uncool.

Snap! For a while in the mid-80s I tried wearing a pair of brown DMs and had a complex about them on account of that song! Found them in the back of the wardrobe the other day. Perhaps it's time to dubbin 'em up and to heck with coolness!

I was always struck by Dylan's "to live outside the law you must be honest"

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:01 pm
by Gordon Neill
Keeping with the footwear theme, I still have mild feelings of anxiety when I'm in a crowd and wearing my blue suede shoes.

Money doesn't talk it swears

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:06 pm
by Gordon Neill
Ian's contribution has just reminded me of another Dylan line which often drifts through my mind while I'm mindlessly standing in a queue at the bank: 'they asked me for some collateral, so I pulled down my pants'. So far, I've never been asked for any collateral; so far, I haven't pulled down my pants.....

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:09 pm
by Des
'They've all gone to look for America'.


As a metaphor for trying to find your own personal Utopia, either physical or spiritual, (and however flawed conceptually in the case of the USA), this has always haunted me.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:39 pm
by Dominic
I think the rule for shoes is "don't wear brown in town" - they won't go with your business suit.

At Royal Ascot,
Men are required to wear morning suit, national dress or uniform - brown shoes are banned, and top hats are the order of the day.

I don't think brown DMs would go with black jeans, either, Ian :-)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:32 pm
by Des
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Re: Lyrics that haunt you

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:28 pm
by Ted
David Flower wrote:an example is Zappa's assertion that "Brown Shoes Don't Make it"


David. I'm assuming you have seen pictures of Frank Zappa. Possibly you saw him in the flesh. I can't believe that anyone would take sartorial advice from him. The state of the man.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:06 pm
by David Flower
it's a very good point Ted. Why would I worry? But he did have a withering sarcasm and was a bit intimidating. Saw him just once, on I think my first visit to the Barbican. He once berated us all, I think in reference to the beatniks' anti-war stance, that we, the said beatniks, ALL wear uniform ourselves but just don't realise it. It's called denim. He had a point.
Although ugly in some ways, he convinced me he was rather sophisticated underneath it all (I knew I'd never understand his music fully) so I assumed he knew what he was talking about when it came to coolness, and shoes. Never liked him much really, but I had friends who were huge fans. It was probably one of his jokes anyway

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:11 pm
by David Flower
another of mine, which always comes to mind when it comes to girl friends getting married, is Dave Edmunds' marvelous 'I Knew the Bride when she used to rock and roll'

it's the last line here...

Well, take a look at the bridegroom smilin' pleased as pie
Shakin' hands all around with a glassy look in his eye
He got a real good job and his shirt and tie is nice
But I remember a time when she never would have looked at him twice

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:13 pm
by will vine
The line that comes back to me on an almost daily basis as I ponder the absurdities of this life is,

You got what you wanted but you lost what you had

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:20 pm
by Des
Seasick Steve (not a real hobo apparently) sang the song 'I Started Out with Nothing and I Still Have Most of it Left' last night on Jools.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:49 pm
by Adam Blake
Another Dylan line that often haunts me in my line of work teaching guitar to the children of the wealthy is: "Helpless like a rich man's child".

Zappa also finished my formal education for me at a very young and impressionable age with his exhortation to "drop out of school and go to the library and educate yourself". That's pretty much what I did.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:52 pm
by Adam Blake
David Flower wrote:another of mine, which always comes to mind when it comes to girl friends getting married, is Dave Edmunds' marvelous 'I Knew the Bride when she used to rock and roll'

it's the last line here...

Well, take a look at the bridegroom smilin' pleased as pie
Shakin' hands all around with a glassy look in his eye
He got a real good job and his shirt and tie is nice
But I remember a time when she never would have looked at him twice


I love that song too, David, surely the best Chuck Berry song not written by Chuck Berry but actually written by... Nick Lowe.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:22 am
by judith
"I see false preachers and false teachers..." Prezident Brown's "To Jah Only" entered my head while I was watching the commentaries on the news the other day and the song hasn't gone far from my mind since.