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Is world music a country fit only for old men?

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Postby Spartacus » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:49 pm

Is it a world music lightbulb or a folk roots bulb? It's a screw type, with a tungsten filament so not very useful to me and not very green conscious and...

okay Ian, I can see you giving me that look, I'll shut up...sowwy.
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Postby c hristian » Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:57 am

this was a fun thread to read tonight at Borders in Downtown DC, as I'm sitting in the midst of the grey lions and silver haired foxes , all waiting for that pale ghost of a woman. Ms. Judy Collins, who then comes out and sings Amazing Grace, Lennon/McCartney tunes (her latest album) and some other stuff of hers well known, accapella, intersperced with all the tidbits of her life. What it was like in the 60s, etc etc.

Watching her for free at Borders while she missed notes was a lot better than spending $75 to see her tomorrow night where I'm guessing she will artistically cover up her weak spots in her voice that inevitably comes with age and constant use.

Anyway, she was talking about how she was in the same house in Woodstock in 63 or 64 when that guy over there in the other room, at 3am, was singing his song that he was writing. She woke up to hear it. How did it go? "hey mister tamborine man, play your song for me".

Am I the only person I know (now in my mid 30s) who enjoys music from earlier eras just as much as, sometimes more than, music from his peers ? No, but, there aren't too many. It first comes with enjoying the value, the worth, the stories and wisdom and the view point of your elders, or those younger than you. And maybe they've got something to say that will speak to you. After being interested in people of other generations, the art or craft that comes from them just follows. It was worthwhile to be reminded of that tonight.

But I think that is more of an issue around here. People of one generation taking people of other generations seriously. People who may speak another language, people who live somewhere not in the same country.

I think that with the internet, the geographical isolation disappears, and with it, comes interest in other cultures/couuntries. And with globalization, too. But it's still this generational conflict that will prove to be the rub.

Her next album will be Jimmy Webb music. We got to talking, and I suggested she do Jacques Brel album. She says she does a bunch of his songs already. Would love to do Ne Me Quitte Pas, hates the Mort Shuman English translations, as did Brel, whom she knew. And Stephen Stills told her he always regretted not giving her some cut of the royalties to Judy Blue Eyes. She told him that she shared that regret.

Had her sign not only her own album, but the SOTW 2007 cd i had in my bag. Thought it might possibly provoke some comment or discussion. She said, "you want me to sign THIS TOO?" I said "YEAH!! :) (smiley right there) ". Maybe she's not a fan of world music. Even old dogs need to learn new tricks. But maybe not old Judy Blue Eyes. Ah well, how much do you suppose my SOTW 2007 woth a Judy Collins sig. is worth now? More than the $25 I paid?

That's it. Goodnight.
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Postby judith » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:50 am

c hristian wrote:this was a fun thread to read tonight .


Yes it was. And your story was a great capper. Thanks Christian.

Oh, I did want to say, re: the title of this thread - in this geographical corner there are women as well as men, old and young, who listen to world music. I don't know if they know that it's called world music though.
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Postby uiwangmike » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:47 am

Christian, you may be interested in hearing Judy Collins talking about her 60s recordings on Jac Holzman's Elektra Story, currently running on BBC Radio.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/musicclub/d ... l?focuswin
She's due to be playing here in Seoul next weekend, but at a somewhat non-intimate venue - the Olympic Stadium. She's part of an impressive line-up of venerable performers, but I'm afraid I'm going to be out of town. This weekend, by the way, we have the Olympic torch relay in town. Having taken part myself in the torch relay when the Asian Games were held here in 2002, I'm pleased I wasn't asked this time.
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Postby Adam Blake » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:34 am

c hristian wrote:Am I the only person I know (now in my mid 30s) who enjoys music from earlier eras just as much as, sometimes more than, music from his peers ?



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Gordon Moore » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:29 am

Adam Blake wrote:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Postby Rob Hall » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:56 am

I think Adam was merely expressing surprise that Christian should imagine that he's the only one who loves music from a time previous to his own.
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Postby Gordon Moore » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:32 pm

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Postby Nick Boyes » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:20 pm

nigel w wrote:Perhaps SOTW and Saga Holidays could link up for a world music cruise

Saga in their latest brochure run a 'Rhythms of Cuban Music ' tour lead by Philip Sweeny and I quote ' this lively tour will bring to life the story of Cuban music through lectures, discussions, music sessions and visits to fabled music venues' , I'm thinking of booking as I type this. At least there won't be any young people on it , playing that pounding bass led music with undecipherable lyrics.
Now where did I put that Daara J cd ?
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Postby c hristian » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:07 pm

i doubt that is why Adam is quoting me. The very next sentence to that question is where I answer my own question. And of course, when i thought the thought it was in comparison to the world at large. Not in comparison with this small pond.
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Postby Outerglobe Debbie Golt » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:31 pm

OK as new phase / new concept people coming through, not necessarily by age (it goes from 20's to 40's), add
Eric Soul, DJ Suga Kann, Zak Amplified, Yemisi - Out of Africa,
DJ Edu, Mo Laudi, Yemi of Afro Pop/Aquimedia,
Marcus & Carlos at Open Air, Ipek Ozerim - pr,
the Bottletop guys (Sound affects Africa, Sound affects Brazil), Ed Bigland, Trenton Birch, Dennis Tapfuma, Jill Turner - Gondwana Sound, Maya Jobarteh, Xtina Rouge - ID Africa, check the age of most Big Chill attendees and stuff Continental Drifts do, then in the going stronger and stronger category I'd include John Armstrong and Papa Al in any young list - for their attitude!

Still VERY male, tho.
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