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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:02 pm
by Adam Blake
It's not about the way they sing, Dayna, it's about the way that the recorded voice is then treated electronically.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:29 pm
by c hristian
Adam Blake wrote: And here we sit: talking about old Sam Cooke and O V Wright records... (sigh)


without any cocaine (sigh).

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:34 pm
by Rob Hall
Adam Blake wrote:It's not about the way they sing, Dayna, it's about the way that the recorded voice is then treated electronically.
I was under the impression that there had been, for some years now, a tendency for singers to confuse melisma with "feeling" irrespective of what gets done to the recorded results.

There's a short piece on how melisma is over-used on 'American Idol' here.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:44 pm
by Dayna
I don't like that style of singing( at least the way they do it.) & I hate American Idol.

I really do know what Adam meant by the recording though.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:25 am
by Dayna
I Hear You Knockin' - Dave Edmunds


Has anyone done it better than that?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:12 pm
by Rob Hall
Much as I like Dave Edmunds, I'd have to say that the versions by both Fats Domino and Smiley Lewis are preferable to my ears.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:46 pm
by Joe Cushley
Diamanda Galas did a good version of Dark End Of The Street. Not as great as James Carr's obviously, but more than passable.

For untouchability I'd have to go for Ray Charles's in some ways similar, In The Heat Of The Night.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:38 pm
by Joe Cushley
Ted wrote of Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris...

'More importantly, do they think "Kick Out The Jams" is better than "Back In the USA"?'

Well, they certainly want to "Kick Out The King James Version"...Geddit?!?!?!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:42 pm
by Mags
(You're my) London Girl, the Pogues, minus Shane.

Just came out of the shadows, shall I just pop back in again?!

Congratulations

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:24 pm
by Gordon Neill
Mags asked:

Just came out of the shadows, shall I just pop back in again?!


No, please stay where you are with your hands in the air. Anything you say may be used against you.

PS How is Sir Cliff nowadays? Do you still keep in touch?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:49 pm
by That Was Jonathan E. Then
"54-46 Was My Number" is Toots Hibbert's song and nobody else should ever touch it!

I came to this conclusion last night watching This Is England, which features it as well as Percy Sledge covering "Dark End Of The Street," which, much as I like old Percy, was not up to the standard of James Carr's rendition. Unless you have an intensely morbid fascination with racist skinheads in early 1980s England, you needn't watch the movie to reach the same conclusion, although it is not entirely bad.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:37 am
by Adam Blake
Jonathan E. wrote:"54-46 Was My Number" is Toots Hibbert's song and nobody else should ever touch it!


You might very well say that, but Ernest Ranglin and Monty Alexander do a monster jazz version on the "Below The Bassline" album. Ranglin has probably been making records even longer than Toots so you gotta say Re-speck, or words to that effect...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:54 am
by That Was Jonathan E. Then
What can I say? Some days my brain is not fully functioning. Of course, I have Below The Bassline — and love it, all of it! Perhaps I was thinking of the vocal style rather than the tune itself.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:52 am
by That Was Jonathan E. Then
Judging by the collaboration with Jeff Beck on "54-46 Was My Number" from the True Love CD, I'm not even sure that Toots should be allowed to cover his own song! But I did have a dream in which I heard a sort of slow dirty blues version of the song. I think it was a dream anyway. Maybe I was some other place I don't remember too well.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:25 pm
by Rod B.
Just read on the Observer website that actress Scarlett Johanssen is about to release a CD of covers of Tom Waits songs (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observermusic/2008/03/the_cover_girl.html), with David Bowie on backing vocals on two of the tracks. Of course we should all avoid knee-jerk rubbishing the CD without even hearing it, but when I think about it, a lot of musicians have covered Tom Waits' songs but I can't think of one version that was really more than just OK. And I certainly can't think of one that got anywhere close to his own version.

So could we add the entire Tom Waits back catalogue to the songs that should never be covered? Or is there a good Waits cover out there I've forgotten or simply don't know about?