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Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:56 pm
by liono
AndyM wrote:
garth cartwright wrote: I doubt he ever had a large female listenership - women certainly won't be flocking to read No Off Switch.


Or men who don't think domestic violence can be excused as an outpouring of wounded macho pride.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:01 pm
by liono
Rob,

Will you now be so kind as to point out precisely where Andy Kershaw was accused of, or found guilty of domestic violence offences by a court of law? Other than on this forum of course.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:05 pm
by Rob Hall
Yes, I noted Andy's remark and I'm afraid that I don't agree that it fits the accusation that you are making.

As for Garth's comment, I think you may have a point, but I feel that you have made it fairly forcefully and repeatedly. I shall endeavour to contact Garth and make him aware of this exchange.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:06 pm
by Rob Hall
liono wrote:Rob,

Will you now be so kind as to point out precisely where Andy Kershaw was accused of, or found guilty of domestic violence offences by a court of law? Other than on this forum of course.

No, I'm afraid that I won't.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:12 pm
by liono
Rob,

Repeating the point, in response to others, does not invalidate the point.

Andy Kershaw has not been accused of, nor found guilty of, any act of domestic violence.

Domestic violence is a very serious issue, making it a very serious accusation. Which as we know, is entirely false.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:19 pm
by Rob Hall
As I said, I shall endeavour to contact Garth to make him aware of this exchange.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:34 pm
by liono
Rob,

Many thanks. However, I believe your responsibility as a site admin, extends beyond merely contacting Garth.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:37 pm
by liono
BTW. Does someone here work for a company called Fidessa by any chance?

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:47 pm
by NormanD
Liono, there has been very little past discussion on this forum about the nature of Mr Kershaw's imprisonment - it mostly relates to his musical influence and significance. If anything, discussion has been largely avoided.

A legal definition and understanding of 'domestic violence' also includes intimidation, harassment and stalking. Mr Kershaw was imprisoned for an offence of 'harassment' against his former partner, and mother of his children. The offence and sentence were both committed on the Isle of Man, which may have its own legal definitions and interpretations of this offence. Violence does not merely involve physical abuse.

Mr Kershaw is more than capable of speaking up for himself, here or anywhere else. I don't think that your robust attack on the use of 'domestic violence' here is really doing much to rehabilitate his reputation.

I do not work for a company called Fidessa. Are you, by chance, trolling on their behalf? If not, my sincere apologies, I'd hate to be accused of making a false suggestion.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:50 pm
by liono
NormanD, attempting to defend the lie (it wasn't domestic as the couple had long separated) makes you a bit of a cunt really.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:05 pm
by NormanD
Thank you, liono, but I've been called worse by better people. Resorting to that smacks of desperation, and a lost argument. I notice there's no forum on http://www.andykershaw.co.uk/ If there were, would it tolerate personal abuse?

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:11 pm
by liono
Merely erudite NormanD.

You deserve to be called out for what you are. A liar defending a lie.

There is no desperation. I am correct, you are wrong. You can dress it up all you like, and dance around it, but the facts speak for themselves.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:21 pm
by NormanD
Threats, stalking, abuse. Not bad. I think I'll stop feeding you, and advise others to do the same.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:23 pm
by liono
NormanD,

The Internet kindly tells me there's been very recent visits to both my personal website (only possible by knowing my actual name admins) and to Andy Kershaw's website (which you mention), from a company domain called Fidessa PLC. Using the Chrome browser and a screen resolution of 1920x1080 resolution.

Coincidence? Nope.

Re: No Off Switch by Andy Kershaw

PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:30 pm
by liono
NormanD,

Threats? None

Stalking? None

Abuse? Very well deserved