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2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:51 am
by Alan
World Service Week 7 from 13 February 2010 – Invented Languages (repeat)

While I remain indisposed, the slot for A World of Music continues to re-run programmes from the past. This week’s programme was first broadcast on 8 August 2009. All the artists have recorded songs delivered in languages of their own invention. Having talked to several of them privately, I learned that in several cases they each make up a lexicon so that each particular sound has a consistent meaning.
CG

posted on behalf of CG - another chance to hear this programme devoted to singers who perform in their own, invented languages

Seq - Artist - Song Title - Album - Country - Label - Cat no - Website

1 - Julien Jacob - Dierel - Barham - Benin - Volvox - VOL 0701 - http://www.julienjacob.com

2 - Rhett Brewer - Milennia - Hotel de Ville - UK - Ex-Directory - EX-CD01 - http://www.rhettbrewer.com

3 - DVA - Dua Dua - Fonok - Czech Republic - Indies - MAM435-2 - http://tinyurl.com/ybwhv6n

4 - Toto Bona Lokua - Lisanga - Music from the Chocolate Lands - Congo/ Cameroon / Martinique - Putumayo - PUT 230-2 - http://tinyurl.com/nvp2z8

5 - Sjahin During feat Arto Tuncboyaciyan - Otro Mundo - Afro Anatolian Tales - Turkey/Armenia - RMP - RMP 8057 - http://www.sjahinduring.com

6 - Sui Vesan - Harmonia Mundi - Renewal - Slovakia - Sui Music - N174 00002-2-331 - http://tinyurl.com/yj85zt9

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This is Charlie's bulletin from the original show http://www.charliegillett.com/playlistn ... =8August09

Each time I run across another artist who invents his/her/their own language, I think, ‘I must do a whole programme devoted to such people’ and finally the moment has arrived, triggered by the debut album from the Czech duo, DVA, which is turning into one of my favourite of albums this summer.

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Julien Jacob

I’m not sure if all these artists adopt the same approach as each other, but recall Julien Jacob saying that he has established a coherent language for his imaginary world, so that the same words recur in applicable situations. Barham is the second album by the engaging Paris-based singer from Benin and has been picked up for international distribution by Tropical Records of Germany.

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Rhett Brewer

There are times when Rhett Brewer sounds like an opera singer, which may have mislead me into thinking he was singing in Latin or Italian, but he assures me he makes everything up.

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DVA

In the booklet of their album, the two members of DVA list all the lyrics of their songs in three languages, one of which is an invented Inuit dialect. I like several tracks on the album and chose ‘Dua Dua’ for this programme mainly because I have not played it on this programme before. But the more I listen, the better this one gets.

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Toto Bona Lokua

Thanks to listener Nikki Akinjinmi for alerting me to ‘Lisanga’ by the trio Toto Bona Lokua, first included on their album for the No Format label (*) and picked up by compiler Jacob Edgar for the Putumayo album Music from the Chocolate Lands, whose sleeve note points out that the words are not in a real language. (*) Meaningless coincidence: On Wednesday I met the head of No Format Records for the first time, who passed me an advance copy of his label’s next album, an all instrumental duet between Malian kora player Ballake Sissoko and French cellist Vincent Segal.

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Arto Tuncboyaciyan

I have always assumed that the distinctive songs of the Turkish Armenian singer Arto Tuncboyaciyan were delivered in an Armenian language, but have recently discovered that he makes it up. I don’t know if he improvises every time or if he works from a preconceived structure.

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Sui Vesan

The Slovak singer Sui Vesan gives the impression of improvising. I must settle things by asking her.

CG

Listen again via http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p0064b52 from 13 February 2010 11.30pm for 7 days

World Service page link http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0064b52

Re: 2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:30 pm
by liz molony
I hope to have the chance to hear Julien Jacob lots more. Can’t imagine such a huge man singing like whispers over water.
What makes the harp-like slithers behind him?

And Rhett Brewer too, with his spectral background voices. Using your playlists opens up such a myriad of doors that I’m constantly finding myself lurching across the world. Just been listening to R Brewer’s global soundscapes on his website. He’s brilliant to create these ‘musical spaces’ where he says he 'can reflect, while surrounded by the hectic claustrophobic noises of New York.’ I guess if he loves Byzantine hymns it’s easier to make up the sounds than learn Latin!!!
I see he pays tribute to YOUR encouragement.

I own v little music but I must buy DVA’s album.They make me smile with their youthful inventiveness and vigour.
How I wish the enthusiasm of singers like the Trio Toto/ Boa /Lokua would find their way into the village schools of rural England. Imagine the joy of learning to make those background vocals with these musicians. [They do look a bit glum in the photo.]

‘Otro Mundo’ ..mmm..unearthly! ! I respect Arto’s seriousness – there is something so sad in this piece. I read that his brother, who was a great influence in his life, ‘disappeared’ in 1996. But how? I wonder, was Arto the vocalist or the instrumentalist? I hear he will use anything to make music, even performed using a coke bottle. Have you played anything by Serj Tankian another musician he has improvised with.

Since your Otro Mundo CD arrived on our doorstep I’ve realised what treats you’ve sounded out over the airwaves to your listeners before I followed the shows.
[The discs now keep disappearing into the car when anyone in our family take off.]
Best wishes.

Re: 2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:17 pm
by liz molony
Aaaah....Just found ARTO Tuncboyaciyan SMILING -
See http://www.naregatsi.org/Art.
Very artistic site with original CD covers for his Armenian Navy Band series.
Can you recommend them?

Re: 2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:03 pm
by kastamonu
ARTO TUNÇBOYACIYAN

In reply to Liz Molony's query I logged into the Turkish Wikepedia for Arto T. The translation I got wasn't all that good but it said that his brother had died in a plane crash. I believe Arto - who lives in Istanbul? - is an Armenian Kurd and the date of his brother's death (in the 90's) makes me wonder if something slightly more sinister was involved?? I saw that he has also worked with Sezen Aksu - a female singer who is absolutely revered in Turkey & who I know Charlie has played on his programme in the past - as an aside it would be lovely to hear some more from her. I have become quite a fan of her here in Turkey - she has - I believe- invested a great deal of her own personal wealth in schools (mainly to help educate girls) in East Turkey - there is a very great need for this kind of benevolence although things are gradually changing for the better.

Re: 2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:35 pm
by Chris P
kastamonu wrote:ARTO TUNÇBOYACIYAN

In reply to Liz Molony's query I logged into the Turkish Wikepedia for Arto T. The translation I got wasn't all that good but it said that his brother had died in a plane crash. I believe Arto - who lives in Istanbul? - is an Armenian Kurd and the date of his brother's death (in the 90's) makes me wonder if something slightly more sinister was involved?? I saw that he has also worked with Sezen Aksu - a female singer who is absolutely revered in Turkey & who I know Charlie has played on his programme in the past - as an aside it would be lovely to hear some more from her. I have become quite a fan of her here in Turkey - she has - I believe- invested a great deal of her own personal wealth in schools (mainly to help educate girls) in East Turkey - there is a very great need for this kind of benevolence although things are gradually changing for the better.


What I think I know (don't quote me!):

Arto grew up near Istanbul, in a poor family of Armenian ethnic origin, his dad was a shoemaker. His older brother Onno through his musical talent, skills, and his genuine personality managed to rise to the very top becoming the most lauded & pivotal composer/arranger of his generation for his vision (notably for Sezen Aksu - several classic albums that integrated pop music with roots culture of Turkey & the varied ethnic traditions). Onno and Sezen were also a couple for a time.
wikipedia wrote:It was widely known that his death tipped Sezen Aksu into depression. She dedicated her album Düş Bahçeleri to Onno (and numerous songs on virtually all of her albums since).
I've never heard the plane crash as being thought to be suspicious: it crashed into a mountain in bad weather in '96. Arto, also a great talent, & inspired by his brother followed a musical path, leaving Turkey whilst still a young man in 1981 to pursue work in international jazz groups & sessions. As far as I know he doesn't live in Turkey, certainly not full time, I think he's probably based in the States. Ever since the shock death of his older brother, Arto has always had the name 'Onno' written somewhere on the covers of all his albums in tribute. He also recorded the album 'Onno', with Ara Dinkjian, in memory of his brother.

Re: 2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:06 pm
by kastamonu
ARTO TUNÇBOYACIYAN

Many thanks Chris - you are a mine of information & this is very interesting. I think it was Liz's reference to the brother 'disappearing' which got me thinking - maybe said in a spiritual sense?? What you revealed about Sezen Aksu was also enlightening. She's an amazing person & I've heard she writes songs, unceasingly, for many top stars here in Turkey.

I heard this morning my (Kurdish) partner completes his (15 months in East Turkey!) military service in a few days, so forgive me being somewhat distracted - I will be listening to Charlie's show a little later today - it may be a repeat but I wouldn't miss it for the world! Thanks again & regards.

Re: 2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:11 pm
by Chris P
liz molony wrote:Armenian Navy Band series.
Can you recommend them?


Yes, if the notion of post-Weather Report jazz meets Armenian folk tunes, sounds appealing to you. As it happens that sounds pretty unappealing to me, but whaddya know : I still like them (but not as much as Artos solo albums)

Re: 2010 - week 07, from 13 February – Invented Languages (rpt)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:55 pm
by liz molony
Thank you Kastamonu, and Chris P, for all this background to Arto T's story.
Looking forward now to following up on Sezen Aksu' work, and Arto's album 'Onno' with Ara Dinkjian.