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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:34 pm
by nikki akinjinmi
THAT MAN wrote:I'm not returning to the discussion forum as I'm enjoying the relief of not having my every utterance pounced upon and my character publicly savaged by 'Stalker' Blake! )


Do you really need to continue this on this part of the forum? I know I am drawing attention to this, when perhaps I shouldn't - it is really becoming very tiresome and smacks of desperation. I thought this was strand was about Jerry Wexler - not your ego.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:59 pm
by Charlie
nikki akinjinmi wrote: I thought this was strand was about Jerry Wexler - not your ego.

Hey hey hey, it is indeed about Jerry W but if That Man was worried that he would be pounced on, he is entitled to try to ward off the blows. I don't think he was expecting them to come from a different quarter.

Can we just let everybody have their say?

Thanks for your message with the news that Jerry had died, Nikki, that was the first I'd heard of it

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:06 pm
by Adam Blake
Charlie wrote:if That Man was worried that he would be pounced on, he is entitled to try to ward off the blows.


What blows? If you mean me I would like to remind you that I have given my solemn promise not to respond to that man under any circumstances and I shall not break my promise.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:10 pm
by nikki akinjinmi
Charlie wrote:
nikki akinjinmi wrote: I thought this was strand was about Jerry Wexler - not your ego.

Hey hey hey, it is indeed about Jerry W but if That Man was worried that he would be pounced on, he is entitled to try to ward off the blows. I don't think he was expecting them to come from a different quarter.

Can we just let everybody have their say?



Nothing wrong with people having their say, Charlie. But is it appropriate to start/ or include in as many discussions as possible taking unnecessary swipes at someone else with whom you have had several disagreements - trying to currie favour - appearing to seek support from wherever? It is bloody irritating.

Imagine if I somewhere included in almost every posting comments about someone I had had a disagreement with - Des, for example - wouldn't you, and everyone else be sick and tired of it - me, constantly taking swipes at someone who had annoyed me? Come on, Charlie. Take a look at the postings. I am not for censorship or telling anyone what they must write - but I am having my say, just as Nigel W has.

Pounced on by whom/ what blows? He has done the same to others. What does this so called "Stalker Blake" have to do with Jerry Wexler?

In additon, is it ok too send threatening and intimidating messages to people, because they dare to criticise you publicly? And then to continue to send message even after being asked politely not to send anymore messages. What kind of person does that?

BTW, I am sorry that you heard about Jerry death by my email.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:23 pm
by Charlie
nikki akinjinmi wrote:In addition, is it ok too send threatening and intimidating messages to people, because they dare to criticise you publicly? And then to continue to send message even after being asked politely not to send anymore messages.

That's exactly what That Man was complaining about Nikki, and I do think that the private message system should not be used by anybody to send threatening messages to anybody else, no matter what the circumstances.

Basically, the PM system is for people to exchange private details, addresses etc, if they wish, but otherwise it should be kept to a minimum.

The forum should be open.

I'll move some of these messages out of the way when this dialogue is over or reaches a lull, so that Jerry can be discussed with honour and without this diversion. Perhaps the participants in the argument could reconcile and agree not to be provoked by each other.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:25 pm
by nikki akinjinmi
Charlie wrote:
nikki akinjinmi wrote:In addition, is it ok too send threatening and intimidating messages to people, because they dare to criticise you publicly? And then to continue to send message even after being asked politely not to send anymore messages.

That's exactly what That Man was complaining about Nikki, and I do think that the private message system should not be used by anybody to send threatening messages to anybody else, no matter what the circumstances.



He has a very selective memory, because he sent me messages like that and as far as I am concerned he got what he deserved - a public request asking for him to stop.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:08 am
by Adam Blake
Charlie, I'm very sorry but I think you have the wrong end of the stick with this. I was the one who first received an unpleasant personal message from Nigel Williamson on the Friday before last. I politely asked him not to send me any more. He ignored this request and sent an even more unpleasant PM. I then told him in no uncertain terms what I thought of this behaviour. He responded by asking to share this last message with various members of the forum and I responded by posting the entire correspondence as its own thread. As I explained at the time, I did this in order to protect myself from being mis-quoted or edited. I would never have abused the PM system had I not felt under personal threat. You then saw fit to delete the correspondence - as is your prerogative.

I assure you I want absolutely no further contact with this man at all, but I do think it is important to see the sequence of events clearly. Especially now that he seems to have taken exactly the same tack with Nikki.

I for one will welcome the removal of this section of the thread, but I must insist that it be clear that whatever I may or may not have said on the forum, I did not initiate any private message sending of a threatening or intimidating nature.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:39 am
by Paul Sherratt
Crumbs !

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:46 am
by Paul Sherratt
Robert Crumbs in fact !

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:27 am
by Papa M
Paul Sherratt wrote:Robert Crumbs in fact !


I wish Robert Crumb would send me private messages of a threatening or intimidating nature, complete with appropriate illustration.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:48 am
by Adam Blake
I note that the insulting and gratuitous reference to my name is still where it was on the Jerry Wexler thread, whereas the responses to it have been moved, creating the entirely false impression that the remark was unopposed.

Oh well... I suppose it's unavoidable. Nigel's list of Wexler's Top 20 is appropriate and fascinating. One cannot separate one part of the post from another.

looking for an alibi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:57 pm
by ritchie
phew for a minute I thought we were going to get rid of the PM.

"who will rid me of this man?"

I suggest you all get alibi's .... I still don't know where i was when Kennedy died.

"beware of the grassy knoll"

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:33 pm
by Nigel w
Just had my attention drawn to this. My 'threatening' reply to NA?

Thank you for your lovely message.

I hope you find peace.

Music is love, as Kahil Gibran said.


This is the person, don't forget, who told Des to go away and read The Sun or look at the pictures if he couldn't read the words...

Who needs it? That's why I've dropped out. Guess that's why Des has gone, too.

Nice to see Stalker Blake still gnawing away on his worry bone!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:54 pm
by nikki akinjinmi
THAT MAN wrote:Just had my attention drawn to this. My 'threatening' reply to NA?

Thank you for your lovely message.

I hope you find peace.

Music is love, as Kahil Gibran said.


This is the person, don't forget, who told Des to go away and read The Sun or look at the pictures if he couldn't read the words...

Who needs it? That's why I've dropped out. Guess that's why Des has gone, too.

Nice to see Stalker Blake still gnawing away on his worry bone!


This coming from the person who does not understand

Please do not write to me. Those were the words I wrote to you after your first threatening email - but I notice you haven't included that message. Exactly, what part of Please do not write to me do you not understand?.

Get your facts straight and stop re-writing the events - Des has had a disagreement with Garth and has opted out. I had nothing to do with this. Get your fucking facts right.

Your problem is you want the right to insult whoever, but do not like it when you are challenged. I am not stopping you from contributing - your ego seems to be stopping you and all because I exercised my right to express an opinion - just like you did.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:04 pm
by Nigel w
Exactly. Far too many people on this forum who think that shouting loudest , using profane language, hurling insults and typing in bold equates with winning an argument!

I have nevber threatened or insuklted you. I am now going away to look at the pictures in Wisden Cricket Monthly...