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Pure Flamenco

Who recommends what, for the perfect record collection, including best guitar solos, African records and singers with gravelly voices
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Pure Flamenco

Postby Des » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:36 am

Any recommendations for a type of music I know little about?










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Postby Adam Blake » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:06 pm

Sabicas, mate. Top dog Flamenco guitar player. The guv'ner, even...
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Postby Chris Walsh » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:12 pm

I rather like Gerardo Nunez... particularly his work on Jazzpana II. I'll grant you it isn't 'proper flamenco' but I really like it. Man, when Michael Brecker solos with Nunez, it's unreal!
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Postby David M » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:07 pm

Initially I found the guitar players much more accessible, the singers tend to take a while to percolate but finding one you like tends to lead to another. The late Camaron De La Isla(always refered to as Cameron) is the most famous singer. A young Paco De Lucia accompanied him, he led a rock & roll lifestyle & died young. Another couple of recommendations would be La Perla De Cadiz & Enrique Morente who played a stunning set at WOMAD this year. Rod B recommends 'Suena la Alhambra' in the Best of the Year section. Sounds like a winner to me. Juan Pena & Orchesta Andalusi de Tangier's 'Encuentros' which Charlie turned us all onto still sounds great. Also Jose Merce CD 'Aire' has some crackers on it.

Guitar players. More votes for Sabicas & Gerardo Nunez though I'd probably opt for 'Jucal' with some fantastic tracks(except track two which is a stinker). Add to that Carlos Montoya, Tomatito, & two that almost seem like flamenco cliches but are excellent players Paco de Lucia(I'd avoid his jazz/flamenco fusion stuff myself but each....) & Tony Blairs favourite, Paco Pena
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Postby Rod B. » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:10 pm

Des, the difficulty of recommending flamenco CDs to anyone based in the UK is to find ones that might be available. Amazon’s stock is a bit patchy, and I’m not aware of any specialist flamenco shop in the UK (but then I do live in the sticks, so if anyone does know of a shop with a large comprehensive stock of flamenco CDs, please, please let me know).

Out of the CDs that I think would be easy to get hold of, I would most recommend Estrella Morente’s My Song and a Poem/Mi cante y un poema of five years or so back. Produced by Enrique, it features some of the greatest flamenco guitarists around: Juan and Pepe Habichuela, the Carmonas, and Manolo Sanlúcar. I think this CD is a very good introduction to flamenco for the reason that David mentioned. Flamenco singing can sound a bit of a challenge for the newcomer until you get used to it, but Estrella's voice, whilst completely flamenca, also easily appeals to non-aficionados. My feeling is, if anyone tries this CD but can’t find anything to like, flamenco probably isn’t for them. But if you do like it, then there’s a serious danger you'll discover this whole new world of music on which to ruin your finances.

I haven't come across any British-compiled flamenco compilations that I could recommend (Ojos de Brujo, who I love but don't even describe themselves as flamenco, seem to feature rather too much). But if you can get hold of them, there are two fantastic series of Spanish compilations: Pa’ Saber de Flamenco (To know flamenco, 3 volumes) and Pa’ Saber de Guitarra (2 volumes). Many of the great flamenco artists are on these compilations (Camarón, Paco de Lucía, José Mercé, Tomatito, Carmen Linares, Manolo Sanlúcar, Sabicas, Pata Negra, etc feature on at least one), so they are a great way of finding out which artists might be for you. Problem is: cheap and easy to find in Spain, I don’t think there are easy to get here. Anyone who’s interested could try this online magazine/store based in Madrid (http://www.esflamenco.com/product/en43477053.html)

Like David, I found Camerón’s voice abrasive at first but then after a few listens I suddenly got it, and I now appreciate why he was unquestionably the most important artist in the recent history of flamenco. Along with Paco de Lucía first and then Tomatito he transformed the genre through incorporating jazz, rock, and Latin American influences into his songs (‘Como el Agua’ is his best song for me, available on numerous compilations).

In my opinion, the other most important singer of the last few decades is Enrique Morente. Personally I think his latest CD Sueña del Alhambra is absolutely superb, but be warned, the arrangements and instrumentation are hard to describe, and not what you might expect from a flamenco artist. His music has always had an eclectic and experimental side: my favourite CD of his has to be the magnificent Omega from 1996, a CD based on arrangements of Lorca verses and including four Leonard Cohen songs; featuring a rock band from Granada, guitar legends Vicente Amigo and Tomatito, and notable for the first appearance of Estrella.
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Postby Con Murphy » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:54 am

Rod B. wrote:I haven't come across any British-compiled flamenco compilations that I could recommend


I bow to Rod, Chris and David’s (and probably everybody else’s) superior judgement on flamenco, but I have to say that I like the Rough Guide to Flamenco, which contains tracks from at least four of the artists recommended so far - Enrique Morente, Tomatito (with Camarón), Paco de Lucia and Pata Negra. I was turned on to Enrique Morente, and in turn Estrella, as a result of this compilation. The fact that I haven’t dug much further than that might be confirmation of Rod’s view above, although I think it must in part be down to fact that flamenco tends to be something that I like as an ingredient rather than the full dish.
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Postby Des » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:56 pm

Thanks for the response, guys....a few things to add to my Christmas list!
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Postby taiyo no otosan » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:05 am

Once again, I can recommend checking out an old archive of Transpacific Sound Paradise (Rob Weisberg's world music show on WFMU) which features an interview with a bloke called Brook Zern.

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/12770

He's a cantankerous old geezer, but knowledgeable and interesting so, if you want to hear some examples and get some names, it's probably worth checking out.
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