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David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:13 pm
by Rob Hall
In Howard's absence, I'd just like to say that I think this is rather a good song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOyDTy9DtHQ

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:52 pm
by NormanD
...enough to merit an item on BBC R4 8.00 am news? The publicity machine of davidbowie.com is even better.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:28 pm
by Rob Hall
All I was saying is that it is a rather good song. A discussion on how the Today programme chooses which items to cover might well form the basis of another thread.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:08 pm
by Adam Blake
The chorus sounds like Blur. Hah! Irony, irony...

Not bad. I hope the album is better.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:23 pm
by NormanD
Rob, it's about the ability of the DBplc publicity machine to push product into the market, and any discussion about that is likely to end up under this thread. I've given up getting concerned about the BBC's headlines priorities, they'll never win anyway.

I was just surprised that the release of a new DBplc product should make it to the headlines. But perhaps it's an item of financial news as the term "Bowie Bond" now has an understood meaning for stock market investment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowie_Bonds

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:42 pm
by Adam Blake
God, Bowie's a smart cookie. To raise $55,000,000 by floating his back catalogue on the stock market just before the industry went into terminal decline. I am one of those weird people who thinks that the stock market is fundamentally immoral, but still and all, for a mere musician to display such acumen, it is astounding, is it not? (Even if the acumen only went as far as hiring the right business manager...)

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:34 pm
by Rob Hall
Actually Norman, I would dispute that it's about the ability of the DBplc publicity machine to push product into the market. It's about me making a relatively simple statement that I think the song rather good.

If you want to make the case that it's an example of his well-oiled publicity machine at work, all I can say is that it's obviously not as good as Petula Clark's, because she got an interview, which was featured about an hour later.

Just going back to check (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01pp565 you'll find it at 1:20 into the programme) the presenter Evan Davies makes it clear that the Today programme was alerted to the fact of the song's release by another BBC presenter, John Wilson, who had received notification of it at 5am (though he goes onto say he had a sniff that something was happening yesterday). You can find Pet's interview beginning at 2:24 in the clip above.

For what it's worth (not much, I'd suggest) It wasn't a headline item: it was trailed just before the headlines at 7am, in much the same way as the Pet Clark story was trailed just before the headlines at 8am.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:54 pm
by Alan
First single in a decade? I wouldn't rush the next one David.

I'm just hoping that Elvis' new single turns out to be a bit more inspiring.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:56 pm
by NormanD
It was a headline item - the last one - on the 8.00 am news. I then switched off "Today" to avoid hearing IDS. All I've heard so far is the snatch they played, so will go along with your judgment which I always trust.

What is Pet Clark pushing? Wasn't she on the New Years Eve Jools Holland show as well? Maybe the BBC still have to pay her back as part of the Chris Morris libel settlement, but that was years back.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:36 pm
by Rob Hall
NormanD wrote:It was a headline item - the last one - on the 8.00 am news.

I stand corrected, when I said "headline item" I was referring to the headlines read out at the top of the hour.

NormanD wrote:What is Pet Clark pushing? Wasn't she on the New Years Eve Jools Holland show as well? Maybe the BBC still have to pay her back as part of the Chris Morris libel settlement, but that was years back.

Yes she was on Jools, though I couldn't be bothered to watch/listen. She's 80 and she has a new album out next month.

(I hereby announce that this is the last time I shall express any enthusiasm here - no matter how guarded - for anything by David Bowie, or any artist who has a item devoted to them on the Today programme. This has been a public service announcement. If you have been, thank you for reading.)

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:46 pm
by john poole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOh4Wf_47DA
Opinions appear to be divided, but i enjoyed this more than Bowie's new single.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:30 pm
by NormanD
Rob wrote:(I hereby announce that this is the last time I shall express any enthusiasm here - no matter how guarded - for anything by David Bowie, or any artist who has a item devoted to them on the Today programme. This has been a public service announcement. If you have been, thank you for reading.)
Not even Tin Machine III? I'd sooner hear that than IDS ;)

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:24 am
by AndyM
The Bowie release seemed to be on every news bulletin I saw/heard yesterday (including a contribution on his importance from, god help us, Gary Kemp). It was on Spanish radio too, just to show I was in Spain yesterday!

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:49 am
by AndyM
And as for the track.... he sounds old & weary, but that isn't surprising. The subtext of most of the news coverage seemed to be 'oh he's not dead then'.

Re: David Bowie's new single

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:00 pm
by john poole
I thought he had been given the entire front page of the Guardian when I first saw it this morning.