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Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:15 pm
by Chris P
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I'm just listening to this new release on Spotify. So far it sounds fat with promise, replete with sound enjoyment.
ex Don Ellis & Eddie Harris bandmate (Dr) Lloyd Miller pioneered 'oriental jazz' in the 60s and 70s, but don't let that put you off - he did it properly & immersed himself in Persian & Iranian music, living there by the name of Kurosh Ali Khan & hosting a prime-time television show in Tehran in the 1970s

here's a clip from that 70s TV show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzcMTHDj2xs

Of course the Heliocentrics album is very groovy & bassful, whilst keeping the detail & melody that makes it special. Try it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lATVt0zaexY

egad the combination of the hand percussion & the Heliocentrics drummer is positively Liebezeitesque

Re: Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:14 pm
by Chris P
Dr Lloyd is a little eccentric:

replying to a Cd compiler
I appreciate your interest and efforts to promote better music amidst the invasive noise of today. But the most efficient way that new messages have been presented in the past by people such as Jesus, Moses, Mohammad, Buddha and others is not to water down the message by appealing to pop culture. Jesus didn't hire sexy babes from the Baal / Astarte mother goddess child prostitute cult to attract followers. He violently condemned Baal and the queen of heaven and just told it like it is often making a lot of people angry. Moses and Mohammad didn't mince words either and were pretty firm about presenting and maintaining the often bitter untainted truth.

People who are addicted to the musical sludge that is out there nowadays really aren't in any mind set to be converted to real music and should just stay where they are because they will never really give up the noise for something metaphysical. I have found that very few people can really totally reverse themselves unless some catastrophic event permanently stuns them into a different consciousness. People that hang out in bars won't ever be interested in drinking carrot and wheat grass juice instead of booze.

So thanks for thinking of me but I just can't be anywhere near the thing I am fighting fulltime just like an African-American just won't be affiliated in any way with the Ku Klux Klan. Once someone has become a zombie for the 8/8 inhuman electronic thumping, there is no way they will totally return to the swingin' 6/8 jazz groove of the 50s or the celestial sound of the coming post-apocalyptic Millennium. Maybe after World War III when 1/3 of the world's population has been grimly destroyed, then hopefully the ugly thumping will be stopped forever.

So for the moment, I just want to see Gerald's CD release of my recordings disseminated as is and I must refrain from affiliation with the noise of the Adversary.

Thanks anyway for your friendship and good will, Lloyd.


full context & pics :
http://www.stonesthrow.com/news/2010/04/for-those-about-to-rock-we-condemn-you

Re: Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:18 pm
by Chris P
Maybe you also noticed his YouTube comment under the 70s Iranian TV show clip I linked to in the first post too:

Actually, if it weren't for the revolution in Iran, all traditional music would have been trodden under the ugly jack boot off Westernization and modernization and soon not one note of true traditional music would have survived. Thankfully, those horrible pop slop non-musician and non-singer traitors are no longer welcome in Iran and only pure and correct traditional artists are promoted. Dr. Lloyd Miller

Re: Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:21 pm
by jackdaw version
Thanks, Chris — good read and good link to follow. We need more eccentrics like Dr. Lloyd!

Edit: Hadn't read that comment on YouTube when I made the above remark. I suppose there are sacrifices to be made for art!

Re: Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:57 pm
by AndyM
Chris P wrote:
egad the combination of the hand percussion & the Heliocentrics drummer is positively Liebezeitesque


We need to see 'egad' a lot more on this site. And respect due (to quote Stouffer the cat) on your concluding adjective.

Re: Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:00 am
by Chris P
er, thanks Andy.

I'm wondering if the Doc is in fact an apocalyptic (or apoplectic) Mormon (see his WWIII remark above & his war on modern pop music). A piece of possible evidence being his YouTube clip:

Mormonism has been called the Islam of America because of many similarities. Its history and some concepts are discussed in Farsi by Dr. Lloyd Miller PhD, in Persian language and literature. Interesting Mormon prophicies of the destruction of America are translated into Farsi.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep0rFLD4UxE

my Farsi not being fully brushed-up, it's impenetratable to me, perhaps fortunately..

Re: Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:42 am
by Chris P
aha, here's the Lloyd Miller story as told by the Doc himself. A musical life condensed into less than 10 minutes, interesting, it's restored my overall favourable view of the man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qop6-WDQ_Xg

Re: Lloyd Miller & the Heliocentrics

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:49 am
by Chris P
Aye, & this is downright sheer enjoyment (well I think so):

An Instruction In International Instruments From Dr. Lloyd Miller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWmQz9mplRM