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B Is For Bob-Bob Marley

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:10 pm
by Dayna
I finally got my first Bob Marley CD. It's very pretty.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:02 pm
by Dayna
I've heard this song, Stir It Up plenty of times & liked it, but I enevr knew who it was by. This whole Cd is great.

Re: B Is For Bob-Bob Marley

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:29 am
by jackdaw version
Dayna wrote:I finally got my first Bob Marley CD. It's very pretty.

Only another thirty or forty to go then! Watch it with the early stuff, which has been released and rereleased and rerereleased and rerererereleased with reckless abandon, especially the Lee Perry-produced sessions prior to Island. Unfortunately, it's some of his best material and completely out of control as far as legitimate business is concerned.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:58 am
by Dayna
I should have said more than I did about it, I guess but never sure how to. I love the rhythm of it. It's very lively & uplifting. My mood improved just by listening to this music today.
Three Little Birds is very beautiful.
Bend Down Low, with the kids singing. That is pretty! I love it. I don't know how to describe this, but the piano makes it sound so happy. Is that it?

I like Jamming.

High Tide and Low Tide is beautiful.
It's all so refreshing! I should take it with me on my walks.

The Excecutive producer of this is Ziggy Marley. He must be a relative.

Please don't get mad at me, but I'm still getting his name mixed up with Jacob Marley! That's the only other Marley I've known of.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:59 am
by jackdaw version
Ziggy is one of Bob's (many) sons. Probably not the original "executive" producer. Alright, definitely not. Don't know what later compilation album you actually have; that combination of tracks is unfamiliar to me — but so what? There's no such thing as bad Bob Marley!

There are probably those, even within this very Forum, who may disagree and insist on judging Bob Marley on some sort of good song writing technique or lifestyle or artistic development or political purity or some other criteria and find him coming up short of some hypothetical ideal — but I believe that he was a messiah of sorts and brought a message into the world that the world needed. Jah love!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:32 am
by howard male
Jonathan wrote -

but I believe that he was a messiah of sorts and brought a message into the world that the world needed. Jah love!


Here's a new list idea!

List your top five pop messiahs who thought that the world hadn't already heard of this thing called love - or had forgotten about it - and needed to be told about it again, preferably backed up by a catchy tune.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:56 am
by Adam Blake
jackdaw version wrote:I believe that he was a messiah of sorts and brought a message into the world that the world needed. Jah love!


Do you, Jon? Really? That's nice. Too bad Albert Goldman isn't around to write a book about him, huh.

Me, I'll forgive him pretty much anything for having written "No Woman No Cry" (and given the royalties away to the proprietor of a soup kitchen in Trenchtown) but I and I be very wary of romanticising Rastafarianism, seen?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:07 pm
by Dayna
I love Bend Down Low because it sounds like they've mixed some jazzy piano in with the reggae, so it's got a unique rhythm to it.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:21 pm
by Neil Foxlee
jackdaw version wrote:I believe that he was a messiah of sorts and brought a message into the world that the world needed. Jah love!


Whether or not you share this belief, it's hard to dispute Marley's status as global musical icon and that the lyrics of his message songs had (and have) a similarly global reach.

Even though I think the idolatry is way overdone, I'd go for Marley over Michael Jackson any day.

(PS Dayna - what's the title of the CD you bought?)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:25 pm
by jackdaw version
Such "English" replies from Howard and Adam here!

Surprisingly perhaps, I do not romanticize Bob Marley or Rastafarianism. I've been around long enough and had plenty of dealings with the messy world surrounding Marley and various Rastas, both true and false, that I know better than that. Seen!

Basically, Rastafarianism is yet another of a long list of belief systems that claim to be the "one true. . . etc. etc." None of 'em are the one true anything. Rastafarianism has some crackpot concepts, even some retrograde beliefs, but is more appealing than a lot of the other choices on offer. I give it some respect but am a long way from a Rasta myself, which is not to say that if I were forced to choose a single belief system that I would not choose Rastafarianism. It has its compensations.

Neither do I think that Bob was the first to think that the world hadn't already heard of this thing called love, Jah love or otherwise, "and needed to be told about it again, preferably backed up by a catchy tune." Marley was far more than a "pop messiah," as Howard attempts to slur him. The idea that musicians, especially popular ones or those working in a vernacular field, can only operate in one narrow and authoritarianly defined way is too ridiculous and outdated to be worth discussing. It sounds like something from the early 1950s.

Bob was simply a man with a strong belief that he expressed in a powerful way. He wrote some lovely love songs. He inspired a lot of people around the world. I think his most important aspect was that he gave voice to all the many people who had suffered under the heel of European imperialism and colonialism. I think he substantially helped to change the intellectual playing field in the way we think about that historical period. Of course, he was not the only one who brought about this change, but this change of perception is one of the defining features of our era, although clearly the struggle continues.

I was careful to say "a messiah of sorts." Not THE Messiah. You could look the word up in the dictionary if you want to argue about it. I suggest you consider meaning 2: "a professed or accepted leader of some hope or cause." (Webster's 11th.)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:38 pm
by Dayna
It's just called :
B is For Bob

I don't follow Rastafarianism , but still thinks it's beautiful, uplifting music. Jamming has some beautiful drumming in it that sounds like Djembis and I still love the jazzy piano in Bend Down Low and the kids singing in it. Some parts of the songs remind me of Andy Palacio's music.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:50 pm
by jackdaw version
Dayna, I'm sorry but I have an odd feeling that you still don't have a Bob Marley record, at least not a CD entirely by him.

From the Amazon listing:
From the Artist
"My father's music spans generations and with B is for Bob we give the youngest their very own Bob Marley record." - Ziggy Marley

Product Description
B is for Bob is a collection of original Bob Marley songs re-imagined for kids and fans of all ages!!
The international musical legend's eldest son, four-time Grammy winner Ziggy Marley, executive produced the album, which bridges the gap between the timeless Bob Marley and a new generation of kids.

Bob Marley's music touches people of all ages. With children in mind, Ziggy has transformed 8 of his father's songs while leaving 4 of Bob Marley's other masterpieces untouched.

Released just in time for summer, this is the perfect album for the entire family to enjoy!


More details for the curious from http://www.amazon.com/B-Bob-Marley/dp/B001QAZARG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1246645785&sr=1-1

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If I may suggest, get the Natural Mystic compilation for the real Bob. I think it's the nicest package of the several/many that are available: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Mystic-Packaging-Marley-Wailers/dp/B0000669JO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1246646089&sr=1-1

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It's not all that expensive and/or there are used ones available. More recommendations on how to spend your money on Bob Marley items upon request!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:53 pm
by Adam Blake
Dayna wrote:I don't follow Rastafarianism


Well then it's high time you started, Dayna. :)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:56 pm
by Adam Blake
jackdaw version wrote:Such "English" replies from Howard and Adam here!


Sorry, old boy. Frightfully keen not to seem a fool, don't you know, but some of these Rasta chappies have some very strange ideas if you ask me.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:02 pm
by jackdaw version
Yes, old man, everything in its place 'n' all that. Can't have any fuss with these Rasta chappies and their strange ideas.