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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:36 pm
by Ketsbaia
Now listening to London Is The Place For Me 4 on Honest Jons.

Really enjoying it.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:37 am
by Jonathan E.
"The Payoff Mix" from the Steinski compilation What Does It All Mean? 1983-2006 Retrospective.

Strange how the mashing and mixing is still state of the art, but the sound is not as fierce as I recall it from back in the day. Or perhaps we've just gotten used to much more mutated, manipulated, processed-without-pity sound? Of course, this was originally put together from plain old vinyl of the day, probably using a blade and block for the edits. I can't believe it was all done live on the decks. Guess I'll read the sleeve notes to see if I can learn more.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:43 am
by Jonathan E.
Now it's the magnificent "Jazz" with the spoken intro as to how one should file one's records.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:01 am
by Jonathan E.
From the Steinski notes:

There was no roadmap: "Lesson 1" simply charted "a series of left turns" that amused them. "Douglas was sitting amidst a group of machines — turntables, controls for tape machines, tape machines — and I was sitting on the couch, and there were boxes of records everywhere. We thought, We should probably start with the song we're supposed to be remixing . . ." With that out of the way, they indulged their imaginations, borrowing from over two-dozen sources. Their track abounded with entry points, the shards and snippets of familiar songs cohering into a new, wholly unpredictable, unified rhythm. "Douglas would listen to what we had and then figure out what we needed, so he'd record a couple pieces from the record onto a 2-track tape, cut them together, then vari-speed that tape so it was in synch with the larger 8-track tape. Douglas was at the top of his game. Anything we could think up, we could try it. It was addictive, it was stressless, it was tons of fun."

So a somewhat higher tech studio than I thought in which Douglas, Double D, was the engineer.

Now, I'm on Track 7 — "It's Up To You."

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:24 am
by Jonathan E.
Track 11 — "Is We Going Under?" The sound is much fiercer! Likewise Track 12 — "Ain't No Thing." It's digital technology, that's what it is that lets the sound get really twisted.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:48 am
by Dayna
Finally! I got something I'm happy with tonight.

Moving In Stereo by The Cars. The song that my uncle played for me one day in his room one day on his huge stereo speakers.

That day, he put this song on, the speakers were so huge & the music was turned up so loud, I could literally feel the whole room vibrating & it sounded so powerful & eerie, I couldn't get it out of my head. The deep bass in this along with the faint bells & other things, makes it feel like the music was going straight down through me.
It would be better if I could turn it up like that again, but I can't now I guess except with my ear phones on. I got the album that it was on, but it just seems to me like this has been their best one.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:33 pm
by Dayna
I am happy with my Moving In Stereo download, but somehow, it seems like it just doesn't have the same effect on my iPod as it did when I used to have the record a log time ago.
I know, probably not many here even like The Cars at all.
When I said last night that I had the whole album, I meant I used to a long time ago. Maybe if I get the CD it would be better? Is there something really missing from some of this digital music? What is it?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:27 pm
by Adam Blake
Dayna wrote:I am happy with my Moving In Stereo download, but somehow, it seems like it just doesn't have the same effect on my iPod as it did when I used to have the record a log time ago.
Maybe if I get the CD it would be better? Is there something really missing from some of this digital music? What is it?

Music that was recorded analog doesn't sound as good when played back in digital. Vinyl sounds better than cd's which sound better than mp3's. It's a huge subject upon which everyone has an opinion. I'd even go so far as to say that a well recorded old cassette sounds better than an mp3. But mp3's are easy and convenient. I have thousands of them on my computer. They're like photographs of music rather than the real thing. The sad part is, for many younger people, they ARE the real thing. They don't know how good recorded music can sound. But vinyl refuses to die, and I remain optimistic that a balance will be struck.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:38 pm
by Dominic
Just had a quick blast of mid-70s Cleveland bands The Mirrors & The Styrenes:

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:41 pm
by Dayna
Thanks. From what I could hear of Mirrors, they sound good.
I really do wish I had hi-speed interent so these online media players would work like they're supposed to. The way I get it is I listen to the music stuttering & can kind of put it together in my mind somewhat.

Then I just go looking for the music at the store or something.

Yeah, I do like the CDs I have because they've always seemed so clear, but I wonder if this iPod is all it's really cracked up to be. These little earphones make me mad because they don't fit in my ear right.
I can only get the little corner of them both in, so they're always sliding back out & I can't hear what I'm trying to hear. I like listening to my stereo better with those small cushioned earphones that surround my ears, so the sound surrounds them too & they're much more comfortable.
I sort of wish I had a record player now, in some ways, like my Mom who has her big component stereo which plays records, CDs & cassette tapes. I had cassette tapes, but the way I love playing things over & over, they tend to get kind of funny after playing them for a while. At least CDs don't seem to wear out that way. Too bad they can't get the same sound of the original recordings & combine it with being able to play them without wearing them out. But then, a song like Moving In Stereo on the old album; everything in that music was crystal clear just the way it was. Only then it was like 3 dimentional or something.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:56 pm
by Ed Howarth
Currently listening to Scientist Rids The World Of The Evil Curse Of The Vampires - great album - ideal for summer - and great title - and you can play it at Halloween parties with justification!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:43 pm
by Dayna
I went out & bought this Cars album a little bit ago & there's a sticker on it that says, "Digitally Remastered; From the original Master Tapes". I'm not completely sure what it means, but it sounds like it means it's close to the way the album sounded. is that right? I was listening to it on my stereo, while laying on the couch & it does sound as good as I remember it.

I listened to Moving In Stereo a couple times. The music sort of swirls down through me & I can feel the basss in it & everything else. It's the qualities I liked in it a long time ago. Then tried out the others. I forgot how good the other songs sounded on this one album.

Does anyone else like The Cars? There's one song on it that wasn't on the radio as much, called I'm In Touch With Your World. It's always been a little strange but good at the same time.

Well, my ears are happy now! Anyone want to buy an iPod? Haha! (Just kidding...).

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:37 pm
by kas
Two records on continuous play for the last two days:
Tom Waits - Alice
V/A - Congo: Rumba on the River (African Pearls 1)

I have liked almost everything Waits has issued since (and including) Heartattack And Vine, but somehow I have overlooked 'Alice' until now. Well, I am glad I picked it up now. A lovely album in his dusty Weillesque ersatz jazz mode.
And the Congo album is a true stunner. I'm sure it has cropped up here when it came out.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:13 pm
by Chris P
Buda label's Musique Du Monde series : music of the Shuar tribe of East Ecuador. Beautiful singing and flute playing with masses of extraneous local sounds, and ceremonial and shamanic meaning to the participants. In finding the small picture below I was suprised to find that the people making these pleasing and melodic sounds also have a notorius past-history as head hunters (& fuelled by collectors from elsewhere):

also been playing my favourite album of the year so far : 'The Fountain' by Dem Trio (Felmay) as featured in the current Songlines. Great saz and tanbur playing, and tunes and songs to match, natch

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:08 pm
by pirkko
Currently listening to Avishai Cohen - best music for a late night (it's almost two o'clock at night in Moscow)