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Eurovision 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:45 pm
by Des
Romania kicks off the show with a heart-rending duet.

UK's entry is on now - rather good - a catchy up-tempo soul thang. Trouble is it's on early so it'll be forgotten.

Albania now - a slow, wistful introductory passage giving way to a rousing and powerful anthem. She's a nice-looking gal.

Germany's song is a bouncy poptastic number delivered with panache by four luscious ladies, sadly singing out of tune.

Armenia's entry has a mysterious and atmospheric intro then it transforms itself into standard euro-pop but with added local colour. The singer is gorgeous. I love her.

Bosnia & Herzegovina's song is very prog-rock, and comes complete with theatrical trimmings and an attractive lady in a strange dress.

Israel's song starts slowly with an acoustic guitar accompaniment then builds gradually into a catchy melody, full of middle eastern flavours. The male singer has a great voice.

Finland presents us with a heavy-metal tour-de-force.

Croatia's contribution is a sunny Mediterranean opus delivered by Al Capone lookalikes.


World music. Can't beat it.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:51 am
by rongould
You almost make it sound like I missed something.

I said almost, I listened to Verdi's "Falstaff" on Radio 3 instead, his last opera and in my opinion, the best.

If any of you are interested in "Modern Classical", The Royal Opera House production of "The Minatuar" is on Radio 3 next Saturday evening. Sir Harrison Birtwistle's music is just wonderful. We saw it a few weeks ago, courtesy of our youngest daughter who was Assistant Director. But don't let that put you off.

It's better than Eurovision, but not as many laughs.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:49 am
by Eduards_Ozolins
Eurovision 2008 was the biggest disaster of pop music ever!
From now on, this show is complete pointless. :)

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:38 am
by will vine
I did once suggest to Charlie that he turn over one of his saturday night shows to an alternative Eurovision Song Contest; a selection of music genuinely rooted in various european styles. He diplomatically told me he was too busy at the time, but, not that it is of any great importance, I still think there's a show in the concept, a point to be made in an entertaining way.

Perhaps Channel 4 might put it up in the way they broadcast the Alternative Queen's Speech on Christmas day. I don't have a production company to pitch such an idea but.....well there's the idea if you want to run with it for next year. You've all got all the contacts right here on this website.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:35 am
by NormanD
Quite a few past Eurovision winners or national representatives have cropped up on Charlie's and other world music shows: Sara Tavares, Ofra Haza, Kristi Stassinopoulou, Pearl Carr and Teddie Johnson. Great idea Will. Consider it stolen.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:42 am
by Charlie
will vine wrote: He diplomatically told me he was too busy at the time, but, not that it is of any great importance, I still think there's a show in the concept, a point to be made in an entertaining way.

I'm glad I was diplomatic, Will; I can't remember what I was so busy with that I didn't have time to consider it. Now, it sounds like a good idea, but of course I don't have the outlet to present it.

I like Des' descriptions, but missed the show itself until switching on just in time to catch the last song, a brass band number presented with gusto and humour but I don't know from which country. We stuck with the scores for a while but got bored with Tery Wogan's monotonous grumbles that nobody was voting for the UK. It's curious how the voting has become so predictable, with all the former Communist bloc countries voting for their neighbours and for Russia. It seems so unlikely tha anybody will ever win from France, Spain or the UK, I'm surprised they bother to enter and that the BBC thinks it worth showing on its main channel. Surely this would be better on their comedy channel, BBC3.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:07 pm
by kevin
Charlie wrote:Surely this would be better on their comedy channel, BBC3.


Ha Ha and it would have the added benefit of displacing a few repeated episodes of "Three pints of lager and a packet of crisps" - probably the worst program ever made.

email

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:41 pm
by Charlie
email from David MacFadyen, Los Angeles
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Dear Mr. Gillett –

In the light of yesterday’s Eurovision result, I’m writing from the University of California, Los Angeles. We’ve just created the only English-language site dedicated to new music from Russia.

It’s called “Far from Moscow."

We cover all kinds of genres – all the way from Bilan’s soothing melodies to vile noise!

www.farfrommoscow.com

Yours
David MacFadyen
UCLA

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:49 pm
by Papa M
Charlie wrote:.... missed the show itself until switching on just in time to catch the last song, a brass band number presented with gusto and humour but I don't know from which country.


Seems like y'all missed a trick.

The brass band in question was that of Goran Bregovic who provided the "interlude entertainment" with a set of Wedding and Funeral tunes - much to Wogan's amusement.

Unfortunately the lengthy medley was unlistenable due to the continual comic muttering of the poor old presenter - who is obviously given the brief "Take the Piss - even when someone actually plays some good music!". :?

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:10 pm
by charmingflo
I watched when home from Terry Reid - Flo had recorded - and it was the usual kitsch fun. Intriguing that almost everyone, including Russia, sings in English. Wogan's continual banter over Bregovic was infuriating - that little England mentality that sneers at anything different.

(posted by Garth from Flo's)

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:36 pm
by Leon Parker
Unfortunately the lengthy medley was unlistenable due to the continual comic muttering of the poor old presenter - who is obviously given the brief "Take the Piss - even when someone actually plays some good music!". :?


Last night I managed to turn the Eurovision show at the time of the Goran Bregovic playing live. His performance was ruined by Terry Wogan ridiculing it, so spoiling the only part of the night when there was decent music. I understand he might quit as it is not a music contest any more. It is a shame he can not recognize good music when he hears it.

If I was a Serb I might have felt very upset? For an example of a pissed off Serb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc5E3kVIs3s

Just a little infomation for those who might not know about Goran Bregovic.

‘Born almost half a century ago from a Serbian mother and a Croatian father, he was an idolized rock star in Tito's Yugoslavia with his band Bjelo Dugme before gaining international recognition at the turn of the '90s, writing back to back three major scores for movie director Emir Kusturica.’


If I was Goran I would very pissed off as my only chance to be heard by millions of viewers in the UK was sabotaged by some old fool who would not know a tune if dropped on his head.

Lets face it the only time Roma/Gypsy influenced music is gonning get into the mainstream media is via DJ Shantel, Gordo Bordello or some one like Goran but his only chance sunk by an Irish babble torpedo.



Having just spoken with my Bosnian friend who was imprisoned by the Serbs. Goran represents the days of the former Yugoslavia and is still a hero for him. I understand his house hold directed a fair bit verbal venom at the Mr Wogans TV antics. Even I uttered loudly a few choice words.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:26 pm
by will vine
NormanD wrote:Quite a few past Eurovision winners or national representatives have cropped up on Charlie's and other world music shows: Sara Tavares, Ofra Haza, Kristi Stassinopoulou, Pearl Carr and Teddie Johnson. Great idea Will. Consider it stolen.


Hmm.........Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson ? I think not.
Celine Dion maybe.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:05 pm
by Rod B.
Leon Parker wrote:
Last night I managed to turn the Eurovision show at the time of the Goran Bregovic playing live. His performance was ruined by Terry Wogan ridiculing it, so spoiling the only part of the night when there was decent music. I understand he might quit as it is not a music contest any more. It is a shame he can not recognize good music when he hears it.

If I was Goran I would very pissed off as my only chance to be heard by millions of viewers in the UK was sabotaged by some old fool who would not know a tune if dropped on his head.

Lets face it the only time Roma/Gypsy influenced music is gonning get into the mainstream media is via DJ Shantel, Gordo Bordello or some one like Goran but his only chance sunk by an Irish babble torpedo.

Having just spoken with my Bosnian friend who was imprisoned by the Serbs. Goran represents the days of the former Yugoslavia and is still a hero for him. I understand his house hold directed a fair bit verbal venom at the Mr Wogans TV antics. Even I uttered loudly a few choice words.



You were lucky to get to see any of Goran Bregovic, even if it was ruined by a bumbling Irishman. Millions of Spanish viewers didn't even get to see that. I tuned in for the voting and caught the last couple of songs before the interval. But what we got in the interval was the standard sequence featuring brief clips of all of the songs along with the telephone numbers you could ring to vote, then back to the arena for a few more lines from the presenters, then the sequence of clips repeated again. I assumed that what we were watching was a standard Eurovision feed - until I read this thread I had no idea I was missing anything. Clearly the Spanish television director decided on behalf of the audience that they had no interest in seeing Bregovic at all - despite a sizable Eastern European population living in Spain now.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:14 pm
by Papa M
Rod B. wrote:You were lucky to get to see any of Goran Bregovic, even if it was ruined by a bumbling Irishman.


No. You were the lucky ones - watching in blissful ignorance.

We were being tormented by The Eedjit (to coin his own tediously repeated cliche)! :roll:

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:25 pm
by Des
Guys - if we are going to criticise Mr Wogan can we not keep using 'Irish' (i.e. 'Irish babble torpedo', 'bumbling Irishman' etc) almost as a term of abuse? His nationality or race is surely not relevant. While it is true that Wogan trades on stereotypes of 'Irishness' it is still rather offensive to hear the term used in such disparaging terms.