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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:36 pm
by That Was Jonathan E. Then
Gordon Neill wrote:Jonathan E. muttered:

Too restrictive — and what criteria would ever make sense, anyway?


No restrictions, other than current form. Any genre, any gender. And the only criteria would be a voice that moves you (as in moves you emotionally, not moves you to hit the 'off' switch).


Oh, it's the voice of God, then, Father Neill!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:26 pm
by Chris P
Feryal Oney

the big band (Kardes Turkuler) kicking up a storm :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC6I2Dsno8Q&feature=related

a small combo and the comfy chair :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQirO6RP1fA&feature=related

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:37 pm
by Gordon Neill
Wow. Nice one Chris. I've never heard of Feryal Oney before. Very impressive. Maybe not quite got the long reach of Mariza, but terrific. Clearly Turkish (and confirmed by Google) but I can't find much trace of any CDs by her. Any suggestions?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:39 pm
by Chris P
'Bulutlar Gecer' (Kalan) from last year is one of the greatest albums ever made imo. Charlie and many other forumistas like it too !

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:00 pm
by Chris P
Chris Potts wrote:'Bulutlar Gecer' (Kalan)


by Feryal Oney

until Kalan gets UK distribution (later this year)
the best sources are probably Tulumba :
http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=MU900249BD512

or Kalan direct (their website can be difficult to negotiate tho):
http://www.kalan.com/english/scripts/album/dispalbum.asp?id=4158

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:08 pm
by Gordon Neill
Ah. Thanks Chris. You just answered the question I was about to ask. Although, after a bit of rummaging, I found that Amazon in Germany sell it.

The thing I don't understand is how come I didn't know this was a Charlie and Forumistas' favourite? I've attended most lectures. I've made notes. I must have fallen asleep in the back row at some point, I suppose.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:14 pm
by Chris P
Try searching the forum for Feryal, and be amazed at the number of results Gordon (embarrassingly mostly by me admittedly), I said TRY SEARCHING THE... is there some narcolepsy going on up North there ?

Ian A. (best albums of 2007)
two of my six nominations didn't make the top 50 - Feryal Oney's Bulatlar Geçer (Kalan) and Kristi Stassinopoulou's Taxidoscopio (Heaven & Earth)

and
if you check back you'll find I played tracks by her as far back as March on archived fRoots Radio, there was a fine feature by Nick Hobbs in the June fRoots and a track on the fRoots 29 CD we published in the summer which may - I stand to be corrected - be where Charlie's ears finally pricked up.


Charlie :
it wasn't a case of my ears finally pricking up. They pricked up the moment they first heard Feryal on that CD.


Charlie's top ten Nov 07 : 3 Feryal Öney - Bulutlar Gecer - Turkey - Kalan - ****
and Oct 07 : 3 Feryal Öney - Bulutlar Gecer - Turkey - Kalan - ****
and Sept 07 : 9 Feryal Öney - Bulutlar Gecer - Turkey - Kalan - ****

Des
Bloomin' lovely show Charlie - not a bad track among them. The Feryal Öney track was brilliant.

Zzzzzzzzzz

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:34 pm
by Gordon Neill
Sorry, just coming out of hibernation up here in the frozen wastes of Fife. Still feeling a bit groggy. But I've now searched for 'Narcolepsy' and I still can't see when Charlie played it.

Actually, I do recognise that quote from Charlie, now that I see it again. I suppose that, at at the time, I must have just assumed he was going on about some rubbish CD. And if Ian likes it as well.... Good grief! Even the Forum prankster in on it! I feel such a fool.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:45 pm
by Chris P
Gordon I know you're hip* to the great Kurdish singer Aynur from the "Crossing The Bridge" film - here's Aynur with Feryal Oney and Kardes Turkuler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub_sw_lnwlo

(* probably not the correct term for world music)

Although these are probably better performances for this greatest singer thread :
miming in a film, but great music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHc3rDHTCfY&feature=related
or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lotE-Pgsu_M&feature=related

the glammed up look (for popular TV) in these is so NOT what Aynur's about if you get the chance to see her live btw

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:56 pm
by Gordon Neill
Huh, definitely not 'hip'. Perhaps 'hip replacement' would be more appropriate for world music types? Yes, I stumbled on Aynur when watching 'Crossing the Bridge'. I'm beginning to see why there was some hype among music circles last year about Turkey becoming the new Balkans. That was a terrific clip.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:27 pm
by Rod B.
I'm not sure how you'd judge, but I'd put forward Enrique Morente, Estrella Morente and Concha Buika as great singers. Other favourites more for their distinctiveness than anything are Lhasa de sela, Juan Luis Guerra and Andrea Echeverri of Columbian group Los Aterciopelados.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:57 pm
by Des
On a modern R & B thang I was impressed by Mary J Blige a few weeks ago on Jools. She seemed to avoid too much of the hystrionics associated with the genre and made singing look easy.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:49 pm
by Chris P
I've waded through a welter of less than rivetting YouTube vids, and have come up with this absolute stunner of a Feryl Oney vid. It shows her singing off better than the earlier ones in many ways, and as long as you're happy with a fab baglama intro to kick it off, I recommend this to the ladies and gentleman of the jury :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dREuUbvuGEI&feature=related

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:17 pm
by Alannah
Wasis Diop

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:23 pm
by Gordon Neill
Hi tenalady! Nice use of the blue crayon! And I like the Wasis Diop suggestion. His 'Toxu' is a CD I still play regularly. Whatever's happened to him? He just seems to have disappeared.