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Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:28 pm
by Garth Cartwright
Vivien Goldman has just been on Robert Elms speaking about a Punky Reggae party she is putting on in London. Appears she is now Professor of Punk at a NYC University. Reminds me that last year the NYC Metropolitan Museum of Art did a huge punk retrospective celebrating the original US/UK scene. Adam Ant had wisely carefully preserved all his McLaren/Westwood t-shirts and bondage pants and got paid a six figure sum by the Met' for them. Is punk the most commodified of all musical movements? At present it seems so.

Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:50 pm
by Chris P
Nigel w wrote:I'm rather glad that I never thought that the Slits <snip> were the future of rock'n'roll and in the years since I've made a decent living as a dialectical voice arguing that 'punk wasn't half as culturally significant as most people would have you believe'!'


The whole point is that The Slits weren't "rock'n'roll" - duh! :)

Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:51 pm
by Rob Hall
Punk the most commodified of all musical movements? Possibly. But I would think there's still some way to go before it gets to the 'Gracelands' or 'Dollywood' level of commercial exploitation.

Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:51 pm
by Jamie Renton
Rob Hall wrote:Punk the most commodified of all musical movements? Possibly. But I would think there's still some way to go before it gets to the 'Gracelands' or 'Dollywood' level of commercial exploitation.


I'm looking for backers for "Scabiesworld" a theme park dedicated to the Damned's drummer (I may possibly call it "Ratland")

Who's in?

Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:14 pm
by Nigel w
Chris P wrote:
Nigel w wrote:I'm rather glad that I never thought that the Slits <snip> were the future of rock'n'roll and in the years since I've made a decent living as a dialectical voice arguing that 'punk wasn't half as culturally significant as most people would have you believe'!'


The whole point is that The Slits weren't "rock'n'roll" - duh! :)


If you say so, Chris. I was actually referencing Greil Marcus's famous (and in my view ridiculous) quote about the Slits that: "A Boring Life as it was made in 1977 or heard a decade later rewrites the history of rock'n'roll."

Duh! :)

As for punk comodification, the long-closed CBGB's is may be the closest to a punk Graceland/Dollywood. The building is a US Gvernment listed historic site and was used in the film NYC made to promote its bid for the Olympic Games. I believe many of its original fixtures and fittings are now in the rock'n'roll museum in Cleveland and a full-size replica of the club was built at Paramount studios to host the launch party for the Guitar Hero video game!

Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:45 pm
by AndyM
Jamie Renton wrote:
Rob Hall wrote:Punk the most commodified of all musical movements? Possibly. But I would think there's still some way to go before it gets to the 'Gracelands' or 'Dollywood' level of commercial exploitation.


I'm looking for backers for "Scabiesworld" a theme park dedicated to the Damned's drummer (I may possibly call it "Ratland")

Who's in?



Where do I get tickets from ??

Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:14 pm
by Chris P
Nigel w wrote:
Chris P wrote: - duh! :)


If you say so, Chris. I was actually referencing Greil Marcus's famous (and in my view ridiculous) quote about the Slits that: "A Boring Life as it was made in 1977 or heard a decade later rewrites the history of rock'n'roll."

Duh! :)


haha ! :) But please don't expect me, or anyone else in the real world, to have read much GM.

good point about CBGBs

Re: When did this Industry explode?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:43 pm
by Jamie Renton
AndyM wrote:
Jamie Renton wrote:
Rob Hall wrote:Punk the most commodified of all musical movements? Possibly. But I would think there's still some way to go before it gets to the 'Gracelands' or 'Dollywood' level of commercial exploitation.


I'm looking for backers for "Scabiesworld" a theme park dedicated to the Damned's drummer (I may possibly call it "Ratland")

Who's in?



Where do I get tickets from ??


You have to really scratch around to get into Scabiesworld