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Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:25 pm
by Hugh Weldon
Isn't it the case perhaps that you 'hated it then' for rather petty in group conformism reasons, rather than purely musical ones? Always having had rather catholic tastes (I can recall dancing enthusiastically to Earth Wind and Fire, Culture and Penetration at the same session one fine evening in 1977) I don't recall actively hating any particular genre qua genre, and looking back it seems the things I did really dislike were just bad examples of their kind.

The things I used to really dislike eg the sort of British jazz you used to see on the telly (The Peddlers, Marian Montgomery, every trad outfit) wasn't on the whole very good jazz; similarly the folksy folk of the Spinners wasn't very good folk, but then you found out what you saw on the telly wasn't the whole story.

Don't think I will ever get to love heavy metal though.

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:52 pm
by alister prince
As a callow youth I thought that, by definition, cover versions were crap. Then I found great records such as Bo's Cops and Robbers weren't originals. In fact this was the case with quite a lot of stuff I really liked. After a brief and I mean brief, crisis of self esteem I thought 'so what, it's all part of the mix'. I then started to learn lots of the music had an unclear ancestry anyway. Later while really liking Old Timey and quite a bit of Bluegrass, I was more than sniffy about country. Then a mate persuaded me to go to a country music evening class at Morley College. It was run by a guy called Philip Strick. It was a Damascus job. I was made aware of lots of great music. I also realised I'd been in a deep state of denial. The cross over of influences in the deep soul I loved was an example; as was finding Country was big in Jamaica; and as for folk such as Jessie Winchester I didn't think of as country... My attitude had meant me ignoring and missing out on lots of great music. But heigh ho then I realised the fun I'd have catching up!
Aly

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:37 am
by Jamie Renton
alister prince wrote:as was finding Country was big in Jamaica


And St Lucia apparently: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/a ... ne-country

Pete: I saw Joy Division at about the same time as you and came to exactly the same conclusion. And I still think we were both right the first time. I'll grudgingly admit that some of their recordings have a certain power, but I think their enduring appeal has more to do with Ian Curtis' suicide than anything else.

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:05 pm
by Adam Blake
Oh my lord, I forgot, the biggest "road to Damascus" experience for me was The Beach Boys. I always hated them as a youth but then the penny dropped sometime in my late 40s/early 50s.

Still holding out against The Bee Gees, though.

(Can we have a special mention from my generation who got rid of their "embarrassing" albums in the Punk days, only to have to buy them back again when they realised that they actually missed them? In my case this would include Led Zeppelin, Curved Air, Atomic Rooster, Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come, oh dear... it is still embarrassing, even now. Good to know I am amongst friends...)

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:57 pm
by AndyM
Fortuitously, the height of my 'punk disavowal' period coincided with my undergraduate degree, so I could flaunt my impeccable taste during term time, while many miles away at my parents' home the secret underbelly of my record collection could lurk out of sight.

(Shameless plug: for more scintillating reflections on the aesthetics of that era, see my chapter in this -- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Punk-Rock-What- ... ck+so+what)

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:53 pm
by Chris P
I'd very much like to see your chapter in that Andy, but it looks as if it's out of print, and expensive, unless it's such a doorstopper - it's expensive as a kindle too. I wouldn't be surprised if your chapter is the, or one of the, best bits in it. Have you got it in PDF form?

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:58 pm
by Adam Blake
Wot he said

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:23 pm
by AndyM
Afraid not, boys, it rather predates all those new-fangled media. I'm told it does crop up in second-hand shops at reasonable rates!

Cheaper here than Amazon:
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Searc ... ck+so+what

Re: I hated it then, but I love it now

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:25 pm
by Chris P
well I'd urge those 2nd hand shops to put them up on eBay, which is where I'll go look now

Flippin eck £ 23. It must be in demand. rats

edit: £ 15 on Abe still out of my price range at the moment sadly