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Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:20 pm
by alister prince
At a gig on Friday night Ian Siegal said the best song ever written was Gallo del Ciello (Tom Russell). A moot point, but I love Joe Ely's version, the guitars are brilliant.

http://youtu.be/aL94KYX5V_I

Aly

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:49 pm
by will vine
I was attracted by the sensational thread title. Best Song Ever? Surely an impossible discussion and yet, only a thread or two ago Ali you did declare that Shopping For Clothes was your favourite song. What that has in common with Gallo del Ciello is that it has a strong story line. I can't remember whether we had a discussion of such songs here or was it just a feature on No Reason?

Off the top of my head, my favourite stories include -

Ode to Billie Joe, Tangled Up In Blue, Highway 17 (Rodney Crowell), Chinese Cafe (Joni). The Road Goes On Forever (Robert Earl Killeen), Nadine......and the one you, Aly, introduced to me some years ago, the aforementioned Gallo del Ciello.

Another one you introduced me to was One in a Million, an preposterous folky tale of love in a fish and chip shop. It has never left me....in a bemused sort of way.

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:15 pm
by alister prince
Ahh, 'One In A Million' a wonderful modern folk song by Chris Wood. I get a tear in my eye every time I hear it, like Jamie! Yes I've always been a fan of narrative songs. I'll list a few soon. Shopping For Clothes not only tells a tale of woe, but with great humour and that sax break...
Aly

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:31 am
by thedalai
Perhaps this is a spin off to a new thread. I too am an enormous 'Shopping For Clothes' fan, but the original version by Boogaloo and his Gallant Crew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkTlTLxlGx0

Charlie, and indeed most everyone I've discussed it, with far preferred the Coasters version.
Admittedly this is less well produced, far clumsier and much too busy , but I find it both wittier and grittier. The point is, I heard this version first, and I wonder if it's always the first version you hear that sticks. I can think of few '2nd' versions I prefer.Though I will as soon as I post

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:56 am
by Adam Blake
Sorry folks but I thought this was the best song ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-2CKsaq5r8

I wasn't aware there was even a debate about it.

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:17 am
by john poole
thedalai wrote:I wonder if it's always the first version you hear that sticks
It certainly wouldn't be the case with some of the less distinguished British cover versions I would have heard in the 1960s prior to the originals.

We had a previous 'Shopping for Clothes' discussion in 2009 which Charlie started and Mike Stoller's son contributed
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=11473

No need to choose between Boogaloo & the Coasters (or Boogaloo & Bo Diddley for 'Cops and Robbers') - we're lucky to have both.

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:13 am
by will vine
john poole wrote:
thedalai wrote:I wonder if it's always the first version you hear that sticks
It certainly wouldn't be the case with some of the less distinguished British cover versions I would have heard in the 1960s prior to the originals.


But there's something quite delicious in the sound of some of those very basic imitations/covers. The Beatles, I thought more or less throughout their career, were trying to write Motown and decent Rock'n'Roll but, for a number of reasons it came out all wonderfully "wrong". I prefer their version of Twist and Shout because I heard that version first. To me that's how it's supposed to sound. Likewise, The Searchers' Sweets for My Sweet and even The Swinging Blue Jeans' Hippy Hippy Shake.

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:29 am
by thedalai
Louie Louie's a narrative too. Maybe there's something in it. So's my favourite- Touch The Hem Of His Garment - Sam Cooke & The Soul Stirrers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKADAdCwpYI
I was about to say, on the other hand I'm also fond of Woolly Bully, but so's that !

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:37 am
by NormanD
I've probably said before - I used to listen to "Salut Les Copains" on a scratchy French radio show when I came home after school. It mainly played French covers of current US / UK pop hits, with other R&B curios in between. Even then I thought they were crappy ("Bachelor Boy" in French, anybody?) So, I first heard a cover of "What I Say" before the station played the Ray Charles original. One outstanding original it played was "Black Pepper (Will Make You Sneeze)" by Roy Lee Johnson, that I eventually tracked down last year.

The station used to play a version of a song that had a fantastic drum intro, I had no idea what it was. Then they gave a play to the original by Eddie Cochran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgQg4ze1_KU

Maybe not the best song ever, but it was for me at that time.

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:59 am
by john poole
will vine wrote:But there's something quite delicious in the sound of some of those very basic imitations/covers. The Beatles, I thought more or less throughout their career, were trying to write Motown and decent Rock'n'Roll but, for a number of reasons it came out all wonderfully "wrong". I prefer their version of Twist and Shout because I heard that version first. To me that's how it's supposed to sound. Likewise, The Searchers' Sweets for My Sweet and even The Swinging Blue Jeans' Hippy Hippy Shake.
Well I'd probably say that 'Twist and Shout' by the Isley Brothers is the way that it is "supposed" to sound, but I still love the Beatles' version too - I maybe wouldn't choose to hear the UK hit single version by Brian Poole (no relation) & the Tremeloes again any time soon, or I think any of the Swinging Blue Jeans' covers.

The Beatles' version is certainly better than the actual original (pre-Isley Brothers) recording by the Top Notes (an interesting curiosity produced by Phil Spector).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsDpc-8iR8g

The Beatles and Searchers usually chose their covers well and had versions that I can enjoy without comparing to the originals I later needed to track down.

Impossible to choose a "Best Song Ever" although 'The Dark End of the Street' would certainly deserve a mention - so many great versions (and possibly one or two not so great)
http://www.secondhandsongs.com/work/276 ... nav-entity

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:05 pm
by thedalai
Perhaps it was this version of Cochran ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZRQHkEgX9g
Johnny Hallyday Elle Est Terrible
It's pretty good in its own way.

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:32 pm
by Adam Blake
Ah! C'est bien, c'est bien!

Johnny H gets eternal brownie points for giving Jimi Hendrix his first proper gigs in Europe. Also, just for being Johnny Hallyday... I love the French enthusiasm for hardcore rock'n'roll - given that they can't do it to save their lives. They are much better at Hip-hop for some reason.

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:12 pm
by will vine
john poole wrote:http://www.secondhandsongs.com/work/2762/versions#nav-entity


Whilst I go along with Charlie's old line of "what hits you first hits you hardest" I do derive great pleasure checking out different versions of favorite songs but I like to exercise a little restraint in the matter. Thanks for introducing this website to me John. It could be the ruin of me as I sit here immobilised with a dodgy ankle. There's a day's work in checking out The Dark End Of the Street alone.

(I just had to edit this post. I typed Dark Side of the Street, which as we know was a working title for a Pink Floyd track that got a bit overblown).

Re: Best Song Ever

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:49 pm
by NormanD
thedalai wrote:Perhaps it was this version of Cochran ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZRQHkEgX9g
Johnny Hallyday Elle Est Terrible
It's pretty good in its own way.

Yes, it is probably was that one - unless there was a French cover of Johnny Hallyday, the Embassy label equivalent.