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Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:31 pm
by Hugh Weldon
Co-incidentally in the context of a discussion on the Hamburg tapes I've been having with Ted Taylor on facebook earlier, he offered this recollection of Love Me Do, I'm sure he won't mind me passing it on for your delectation:

"The Beatles first heard "Love Me Do" when they were in Hamburg, staying at the Hotel Pacific, They listened to it on a portable slot in record player, Marga, my wife now, was there at the time, they were Not most pleased with their efforts on the recording, Which is possibly the reason Eppy linked the record to the ticket price for their show in the Tower Ballroom, New Brighton, possibly making this record the Worlds first promotional LOSS-LEADER, buy a ticket, get a free record"

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:01 pm
by will vine
No explanation required....(you may beg to differ).

http://youtu.be/uyjBaiACHCk

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:57 pm
by john poole
Hugh Weldon wrote:in the context of a discussion on the Hamburg tapes I've been having with Ted Taylor on facebook
Prompted by this 1973 clip from "Nationwide" which turned up on YouTube the other day?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE1ncr8GfUI

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:48 am
by Hugh Weldon
Yes indeed John.

I particularly liked Allan Williams' comment at the end about the statue.

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:09 pm
by john poole
Allan's book "The Man Who Gave the Beatles Away" is one of the best (although probably far from the most accurate) books on the group.

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:04 pm
by Adam Blake
Best Beatle books (in no particular order):

"Revolution In The Head" (revised edition) - Ian MacDonald
"Lennon Remembers" - 1970 Rolling Stone Interviews with Jann Wenner
"The Man Who Gave The Beatles Away" - Allan Williams
"The Longest Cocktail Party" - Richard DiLello
"As Time Goes By" - Derek Taylor (not exclusively, but mostly about The Beatles)
"The Playboy Interviews" - 1980 Playboy interviews with John & Yoko by David Sheff
"Postcards From The Boys" - Ringo Starr
"Love Me Do" - Michael Braun
"The Beatles Recording Sessions" - Mark Lewihson

(I've always wanted to read "Beatle!" by Pete Best but haven't been able to find a copy.
The 'official' biography by Hunter Davies is a notorious whitewash but does have a fascinating account of a Lennon & McCartney songwriting session (Davies is a lousy writer, though. Sorry.)
The Philip Norman book is a bit better but he has a habit of making things up and he doesn't seem to know very much about music.)

Would love to know what you think are the best Beatle books, John.

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:29 pm
by Paul S
That Alan Williams Nationwide clip contains a line straight out of Monty Python.
at 5.01.
"...he opened a Blackpool Rock business in Spain. He, two sugar boilers and a wrap & roller were deported by police"

Sugar boilers? Wrap & roller? Mind boggles.

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:44 pm
by john poole
Adam Blake wrote:Would love to know what you think are the best Beatle books, John.
After a while, they all seem to become one. The first choice as a reference work would be "The Complete Beatles Chronicle" by Mark Lewisohn, incorporating information from his previous "Recording Sessions" & "Live!" books. Mark's been working on what must surely be the definitive work for some years, and from what he said on the radio today publication of the first part (which only goes up to 1962) is still a year away...

"The Beatles Off the Record" by Keith Badman would also be useful .... if it had an index ... and "The Beatles Anthology" is probably fairly essential, whatever reservations you may have about it.

As for the best reads, I'd go along with most on your list - one I would add would be "In Your Life" by Pete Shotton & Nicholas Shaffner (republished as "The Beatles, Lennon & Me"). The best book by the much missed Derek Taylor was the amazingly expensive "Fifty Years Adrift"

You should not be without a book of Astrid Kirchherr's wonderful photographs.

I've read the book that Bill Harry wrote with Pete Best, but I really can't remember if I've read the Pete Best book you mention Adam

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:11 pm
by Adam Blake
Thanks, John. Very instructive. I am trying NOT to spend money on books and records these days (heresy, I know, but I have a long distance relationship to maintain and rent to pay) but that Astrid Kircherr book does sound tempting.

I somehow missed out on the Lewisohn "Live!" book - although I borrowed it off a mate at the time and was amazed at the work rate it detailed. The Beatles worked HARD for their success. James Brown or B B King could not have reasonably called them slackers.

I was thoroughly sated by the time the Anthology book came out. But yes, it is a very well produced coffee table item. The Derek Taylor book sounds lovely but... (see above)

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:13 pm
by Hugh Weldon
Spencer Leigh has probably read everything ever written about the Beatles and has two lengthy pieces on his website summing them all up. More chaff than wheat perhaps, but one or two interesting publications you may not have heard of.

http://www.spencerleigh.demon.co.uk/Fea ... ebooks.htm

http://www.spencerleigh.demon.co.uk/Fea ... books2.htm

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:25 pm
by Adam Blake
Thanks for the links, Hugh. Very interesting. (Well I thought so, anyway.)

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:51 pm
by AndyM
It was interesting, but who exactly is Spencer Leigh and from which lofty stage does he make these pronouncements ?

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:00 pm
by john poole
AndyM wrote:It was interesting, but who exactly is Spencer Leigh and from which lofty stage does he make these pronouncements ?
Author of more than a few books on the Beatles & Merseybeat and other musical subjects; local radio broadcaster. I certainly wouldn't always agree with him, but I don't think he's in need of a "lofty stage" (do we all need one?)

http://www.spencerleigh.demon.co.uk/

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:06 pm
by AndyM
Thanks John! He sounds a bit more-expert-than-thou, hence my calling him 'lofty',but maybe that's unavoidable in writing such pieces.

Re: Teenagers views on "Love Me Do", aged 50

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:15 am
by uiwangmike
AndyM wrote: but who exactly is Spencer Leigh . . . ?

One of the best writers around. His Indie obits have been posted quite frequently on the forum over the years, also a Radio Merseyside broadcast (no longer available unfortunately) he did in 2010 with Charlie.
http://www.spencerleigh.demon.co.uk/Rev ... atures.htm
Check out the Clinton Ford interview. It's quite amusing.