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Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:57 pm
by kastamonu
[quote="Chris P"]When the turkish pop diva & the kurdish roots diva hooked-up:
(Pauline do you know what they're saying in the joking talky interlude?)

Well I WAS going to ask Aydın but I persevered...not good but I got enough to understand Aynur accused Dev Dev (da bald guy!) of being lazy & letting the girls do all the work! He feigns to go offstage then Sertab calls him back ... more I listen more I like - all of them superb (tho' I'm no expert - only a 'listener' here nr Izmir) - PS When is Phil going to keep his promise & venture to see us here for a day in Foça (or Izmir??) nxt time he's at Mt A?? (probably more difficult than I think - any fares to Turkey (from anywhere!) seem horribly expensive....thank goodness people visit me from afar - I never go anywhere out of Turkey these days - no complaints - beautiful country, people and culture.

Bests!
P

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:35 pm
by Chris P
good translatin' Pauline ! & thanks to everyone for feeding-back on that post.

I may lose everyone now, but I hope not. Here's some video of Ayşenur Kolivar (the slender woman in white also singing with Aynur & Sertab in the rocking clip) with 2 other musicians from the group Helesa. They're all from the Black Sea (Kara Deniz) area and specialize in that region's distinctive music.

This is a little hardcore ethnic for some, but its very vibrant exceptional stuff (sorry TV recording not highest quality)

http://youtu.be/J1xwMw6wcgg

Enjoy.

I'm now off to Turkey for a short time (not going near Izmir this time Pauline, but I'm sure Phil will take you up on that invite in the future!). We'll be just missing a gig today by Helesa as it happens.

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread - Helesa

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:35 pm
by kastamonu
Many thanks Chris - indeed fascinating stuff - she has quite a voice and I enjoyed the Kemence (small violin played in the Black Sea region) also.

I find the music from that area a bit repetitive (even the pop stuff) but the culture and place (I haven't been yet) are quite fascinating. I liked the dancing in the video also.

Enjoy your trip to Turkey - hopefully some more clips on your return for us to enjoy!

Regards

Pauline

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:10 pm
by Chris P
Famous sons of Crete, Psarantonis and Psarogiorgis (Giorgos Xylouris) (the latter aged 9), short clip shot in the 70s for German TV, nice dancing moves too

http://youtu.be/lsbGbUfJ7Cw

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:54 pm
by Chris P
Psarantonis' brother was the famous 'Archangel of Crete' Nikos Xylouris aka Psaronikos, perhaps the island's greatest ever musical star. Here captured somewhat hoarse & ragged, but really comitted & there's a sense of occasion about this stadium concert in 1975:
http://youtu.be/0G0eeys6c7I

The same song (Posa Xronia Disexta) in studio form dubbed on to same live footage. More vocal skill & ornamentation, but less rock n roll in attitude:
http://youtu.be/40nzRQ5TOrY

Psaronikos is a nickname as it is customary for people in Anogeia to have. His grandfather was Psarantonis (the elder). His grandfather kept company with a group of 5-6 men who stole from the Turks. As he was the fastest runner in the group, when they met with Turks he was running very fast and he could catch all of them as if they were fish. So, first he was given the name Fishturk (Greek: 'Ψαρότουρκος')and then the nickname Psarantonis. That is how all family male members after him were nicknamed Psaronikos, Psarogiorgis, Psarantonis etc

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:10 pm
by kastamonu
Many thanks Chris - I liked his voice and enjoyed that this evening!

Bests.

Re: Greek & Turkish/Kurdish music - Aynur Doğan

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:07 pm
by kastamonu
Kece Kurdan - Kurdish Girls - (sung in Kurdish)

She is fabulous - one of Charlie's favourites - I always feel when I look at this clip that the guy in the baseball cap is slightly incongruous - no doubt he's enjoying himself though -one of her happier songs, I always sing along (as best I can!) -

https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3 ... =zAQAgzoQj

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:53 pm
by Chris P
Pauline, great that you can sing along..

here's some Limon Kurd (copyright Philellinas):

http://youtu.be/hZ6NZWlfLKQ

the usual blanding of Javier, just flagging up its existence, not recommending

AND NOW HERE'S THE POLAR OPPOSITE OF BLAND MUSIC - a great 80s Rembetika docu narrated in English by Dalaras. Here's episode 4, check t'others too:

http://youtu.be/aQdphJWo8Wo

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:21 pm
by kastamonu
Well I can only sing along to the chorus Chris - I think AD is really at her best doing the traditional stuff - I would probably give Limon Kurd a miss really....

The Rembetiko docu on the other hand is just fab - I'll be checking out the others too - thanks for the introduction - I have one or two Turkish friends here on F/Book who often put interesting Rembetiko snippets on also - I'm quite fascinated and have been told by another Turkish pal that it kinda equates to the Turkish Arabesque style which I also really like.

Best regards

Pauline

Re: Rembetika

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:36 pm
by kastamonu
AND NOW HERE'S THE POLAR OPPOSITE OF BLAND MUSIC - a great 80s Rembetika docu narrated in English by Dalaras. Here's episode 4, check t'others too:

http://youtu.be/aQdphJWo8Wo[/quote]

T'others are also fantastic Chris - big thank you again for this - I have a much greater understanding of Rembetika now - marvellous stuff.

Re: Arabesque - Ibrahim Tatlises - Sarhoş

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:49 pm
by kastamonu
A bit of modern-day Arabesque for you -

Charlie played him not so long ago singing a more traditional folk song with Yasmin Levy he was recently shot in the head here in Turkey (!) but I believe is now recovering in Germany.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnI0dpwD-pE

(By the way Sarhoş means 'drunk' just in case you didn't guess!)

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:20 am
by tulsehill charlie
Thanks for the introduction to Aysenur Kolivar, Chris. You certainly didn't lose me; I'll keep an ear out for more of her. She has a lovely plaintive tone, and great rhythmic intensity. I could listen to a lot more of the string player than the bald criminal. Here's an adventurous track featuring AK with some fine harmonica playing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF52uy6r ... re=related

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:36 am
by tulsehill charlie
Here is a deep lament, of the kind that Turkish singers seem to do better than anyone else, sung by Aysenur Kolivar from a film (recent?) by Ozcan Alper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVMvZOzd ... ure=fvwrel

Re: Turkish Rembetiko - Yeni Turku 'Say Yes to Me'

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:25 pm
by kastamonu

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:44 pm
by Chris P
enjoyed your picks Pauline, especially the rembetiko. I heard Ibrahim Tatlises had been shot in the head & could hardly believe it, also heard Sertab & Dev Dev have split up. Bet the Turkish tabloids have run on these ad-nauseam..

Charlie - great Aysenur finds, especially the first one with moothie, really glad you're into her singing/music.

If you've got a facebook account, here's a new and good Aysenur Kolivar video, sound quality poor, but it's a great song & performance, & in this case I really like the rave gig lighting - enjoyable visually:

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150255980423158&oid=329375228690