Page 8 of 31

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:38 pm
by Chris P
kastamonu wrote:http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZZrH7J8WRfI%26feature%3Dshare&h=aAQEA69PJAQFj2H9JoSbEkZgdsybzzzfyaKte36gwKkdl1g

Sung in Kurdish


Nice stuff! I'm a fan of Vedat Yuldurum's singing and songwriting (he's one of the main movers in the flagship Turkish roots group Kardes Turkuler). Any ideas what this song is about Pauline?

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:04 pm
by kastamonu
Sorry Chris - I only speak about 6 words of Kurdish! Aydın not here to ask (on his way to Russia by ship!) Thanks - I'll look up the group - agree, nice stuff.

Bests
Pauline

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread - Kardes Turkuler

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:09 pm
by kastamonu
For you Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLfaf8Mh ... re=related

Keçe Kurdan (Kurdish girls) - played by Charlie (Aynur D singing) a couple of years back on one of his programmes.

Re: Kurdish (!) music thread - Aynur Doğan

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:15 pm
by kastamonu
A propos (of not a lot) my partner A now obsessed with Aynur Doğan's 'Ahmedo' - never stops playing it - thanks again to Charlie - enriched so many people's lives!

Re: Aynur Doğan - Ahmedo

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:17 pm
by kastamonu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H4ICDiydlI

It is pretty fab (& despite her telling Charlie it is a song about a friend's lost love (maybe it is????) A assures me it's actually in memory of Ahmet Kaya! (Famous Kurdish singer exiled to France - sadly he died not too long after - they say of a broken heart).

Re: Ahmet Kaya - Giderim

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:26 pm
by kastamonu

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread - Ahmet Kaya (!again)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:40 pm
by kastamonu
My last post for tonight (phew)

Just love this one by AK - his style was extremely unusual for his time (has become a cult figure here in Turkey - some love, others well .....there is a lot more to his story - but not on here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuJrvyRYtY4

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:44 pm
by judith
Good night, Pauline. I've been playing catch-up on this thread, beginning with the 11 musicians track. Curiously, some of the videos were 'unavailable' when I tried listening before but are available today and vice-versa. As I've gotten behind, there is too much to comment on singularly, just wanted to say thanks to everyone for continuing the thread and the music.

(I love Ahmedo too, first heard it on Charlie's program as well)

EDIT: what little I've read about Ahmet Kaya led me to think there was much much more between the lines, and within his gorgeous voice.

Re: Aynur Doğan - Ahmedo

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:15 pm
by Chris P
kastamonu wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H4ICDiydlI

It is pretty fab (& despite her telling Charlie it is a song about a friend's lost love (maybe it is????) A assures me it's actually in memory of Ahmet Kaya! (Famous Kurdish singer exiled to France - sadly he died not too long after - they say of a broken heart).


nice version with KT. There are a few posts on the web referencing Ahmet Kaya in relation to the song, yet it is also said to be a very old song, and the lyrics apparently translate via Turkish as (some of this not translated clearly in meaning - quite wacky!):

ehmedo, my light, the one i admire, you are not a lord (bey) nor a healer
i am a spring rain in the heart of the God`s wretch
the month is neither may, april nor march
i am on (over) the chest of the God`s wretch
i neither spilled nor rained

i am a wretch
a wretch whose heart is full of longing (yearning)
the night is dark, i cannot see you
i was told that the voice of men`s mourning
is no more and not coming from the land (country)
i will not stay
i will not stay for melting with the heat of summer...

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:22 pm
by kastamonu
judith wrote:Good night, Pauline. I've been playing catch-up on this thread, beginning with the 11 musicians track. Curiously, some of the videos were 'unavailable' when I tried listening before but are available today and vice-versa. As I've gotten behind, there is too much to comment on singularly, just wanted to say thanks to everyone for continuing the thread and the music.

(I love Ahmedo too, first heard it on Charlie's program as well)

EDIT: what little I've read about Ahmet Kaya led me to think there was much much more between the lines, and within his gorgeous voice.


Good Night to you Judith - & yes - you are right!

Ahmedo (Ehmedo) - and thanks to you also Chris for the (rather unusual!) translation - lovely song though. Good Night to you also.

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:15 am
by Jay OShea
I don`t know if this guy has made an appearance in this thread yet...I`ve only just discovered him. Puts me in mind of Hozan Besir so I`m guessing he`s Kurdish. Very nice anyway.


http://youtu.be/7zZmF7U1ZqQ

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:49 am
by judith
Oh, that's very nice. I don't think Cengis Ozgan has been in this thread but I do remember mention on the forum that his name is pronounce 'Genghis'. The sound is bad on the following clip, but I think this song is beautiful.
Cengiz ozkan, 'Edali Gelin':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okYoOw_BsiI&

I looked to the side and saw Aynur Dogan's 'Edali Gelin'. I don't know if it's been posted before (I do like Aynur Dogan very much, obviously).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWGHQ54n66Q

Question - Are song titles capitalized? Often, they are not capitalized on YouTube or other places.

Re: Greek and Turkish/Kurdish music thread

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:18 am
by kastamonu
Jay - thank you - this is lovely. I'm not sure if he is Kurdish (from Sivas in Turkey) & (from what I could understand of the Turkish in his Wikipedia) he was educated in Istanbul and then attended the State Music Conservatory there.

Judith - thank you also for posting (the Turkish C is pronounced J - hence 'Jengiz' - it gets a bit complicated, the Turkish Ç pronounced 'CH' - I'm slowly getting there ....) Genghiz ('G') as in Genghiz Khan as we pronounce in English (not sure about the States? Maybe you do the same?)

I so agree about his 'Edalı Gelin' - quite quite stunning - Aynur D's version also breathtaking.

Thank you both very much.

Incidentally - I may well be wrong - but I think Hozen B's style and way of playing are more 'local & traditional' - I'm not sure he was classically trained. I'm captivated by him though - his facial expressions and enthusiasm alone are wonderful! - (he plays a lot in Turku Evi - a type of folk club -both in the East and West of Turkey) - he is a Kurd from Diyarbakır I think.

I shall enjoy the music now! Thanks again for starting my day in such a nice way here!

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:15 pm
by Jay OShea
I`m sure you`re right Pauline-I`m not familiar enough with the styles to distinquish them-agreed theres something special about Hozan B...a very soulful guy. And thanks Judith for the links-all really good.

Re: Greek and Turkish music thread

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:20 am
by Chris P
The Turbans in Istanbul:

http://vimeo.com/32616518

looks good expanded to full screen