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Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:05 pm
by will vine
[quote="Nigel w"] It's a collection of 26 tracks that 25-30 years ago helped to shape what we now know as 'world music' quote]

Oh Happy Day! Nice compilation Nigel....................

.Now did anyone ever hear anything of the possiblity of Ace releasing CG's Radio Picks Vol 2 ? - every time i've tried to email Ace my mail just seems to disappear into cyberspace

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:16 pm
by howard male
Nigel wrote –

It's a collection of 26 tracks that 25-30 years ago helped to shape what we now know as 'world music'.


Having just been listening to it for a review for Songlines, I can confirm that it’s an excellent compilation, surprisingly free of most of those nasty 1980s keyboard sounds etc that so blighted most US and UK pop music.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:30 pm
by judith
ritchie wrote:
The good thing is, that he is still 'very much alive' in our thoughts, views and deeds.

Thank you, Ritchie. I can only echo your sentiments.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:46 am
by Jonathan E.
Nigel w wrote:A year ago today... and our loss is marked by the belated release this week on Nascente of a compilation album Charlie and me started putting together one morning in his record-lined basement three or four years ago, called ''80s World Music Classics: When The World Was Young''. . . .

Is that this?

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I tipped it to Howard a month ago at http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=17228#p97295 and remember the discussion in the forum some while ago. I wondered what had happened to it. Those sleeves are familiar.

Of course, I played one of Charlie's comps today, Beyond The Horizon — pulled out a track I hadn't noticed before, "Inel Inel De Aur — Bucovina Dub" by Shantel vs Rona Hartner & DJ Click, which naturally lead to the necessity of finding the whole album! Charlie really did make very fine compilations.

LATER EDIT: very annoying — the 80s World Music Classics: When The World Was Young is not showing up on my usual US sources.

EVEN LATER: Now found on at least on Amazon US at http://www.amazon.com/80s-World-Music-Classics-When/dp/B004J0Q6P0/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=IHN04KG34XZMK&colid=1EI3VBZ1VM5AF although not on Import CDs, my super budget supplier which usually has Nascente at several dollars off the Amazon price (as well as almost everything else, but I always check). Anyway, no need to panic. Please form an orderly queue for the checkout process.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:57 am
by Jonathan E.
After mucking about with the search a bit, I eventually found the original topic in which Lewis R proposed this 80s World Music Classics: When The World Was Young compilation. Both Gordon Neill and Neil Foxlee quickly and tantalizingly pointed to another earlier thread (or perhaps two threads) of discussion that unfortunately gives a 404. Somehow the Great Forum Meltdown of Late 2009 seems to have rejiggered things enough that even the World music... where did it all begin? topic doesn't appear where it ought to — or at least it wasn't obvious to me. There appears to be a great chunk of topics missing from the Best of Everything and Anything index in that time period. Anyway, the suggestion fell on fertile ground, perhaps already ploughed, and there's a pretty interesting discussion at http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8882&start=0&hilit=Nascente. Sadly, it casts light on what we've lost both as regards Charlie as a person and DJ and as a forum.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:47 am
by Jamie Renton
will vine wrote:.Now did anyone ever hear anything of the possiblity of Ace releasing CG's Radio Picks Vol 2 ? - every time i've tried to email Ace my mail just seems to disappear into cyberspace


Last time I spoke to Roger Armstrong at Ace, which was a few moths back, he was about to start whittling down the multitude of tracks proposed by Charlie for possible inclusion on this comp.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:49 am
by Con Murphy
Jonathan E. wrote:After mucking about with the search a bit, I eventually found the original topic in which Lewis R proposed this 80s World Music Classics: When The World Was Young compilation. Both Gordon Neill and Neil Foxlee quickly and tantalizingly pointed to another earlier thread (or perhaps two threads) of discussion that unfortunately gives a 404.


Jonathan, it's always worth trying to swap out the "phpBB2" part of the address (old board, pre-December 09 meltdown) with "bb" thusly:-

http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6192&start=0
http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5530&highlight=

More of a similar ilk:-

http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2703
http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2193

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:56 am
by Nigel w
Was a bit premature on the release date -it's April 18.

I thought it was a month earliier because finished copies have been around for some time and it has already been offered as a competition prize and had BBC World Service radio play.

It's a handsome-looking thing, too, with a nice 12 page booklet. So sad that Charlie himself never saw it come to fruition.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:03 pm
by kk
looking forward to this one, especially after Howard's reassurance that it's "free of most of those nasty 1980s keyboard sounds"

Jonathan, you can find it for few dollars less on CDWow

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:48 pm
by Ian A.
Jonathan E. wrote:Those sleeves are familiar.

Unfortunately though they got the wrong Baaba Maal one, a Sterns cover not Djam Leelii that the track included came from. Which looked like this:

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But at least in the sleeve note I managed to correct the folklore that has for years mis-attributed the quote that "it was like hearing Muddy Waters for the first time" to the blessed John Peel when in fact it was Paul Lashmar in the Observer, on one of its very first reviews.

As mentioned above, there are ten copies to be won (closing date 31st March) at http://www.frootsmag.com/content/issue/competition/

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:13 pm
by Nigel w
Indeed it was Lashmar, who claims to have been responsible for the very first mention of Baaba Maal's name in a newspaper outside West Africa.

Must have been around 1985/6, when Paul won Reporter of the Year with David Leigh at the UK Press Awards - not for discovering Baaba, but for their investigative scoop on how since 1937 MI5 had been vetting BBC appointments. They discovered that there was even an MI5 operative called Brigadier Ronnie Stonham who had an office in room 105 in Broadcasting House. It was Stonham's Orwellian job to check appointments against the MI5 date base and he had full powers of veto. Quite extraordinary.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:17 pm
by Jonathan E.
Con Murphy wrote: . . . it's always worth trying to swap out the "phpBB2" part of the address (old board, pre-December 09 meltdown) with "bb" thusly:-

http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6192&start=0
http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5530&highlight=

More of a similar ilk:-

http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2703
http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2193

Oh, great tip! Just the kind I like — thanks a lot. There goes the morning!

Ian A. wrote:
Jonathan E. wrote:Those sleeves are familiar.

Unfortunately though they got the wrong Baaba Maal one, a Sterns cover not Djam Leelii that the track included came from. Which looked like this:

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Yes, I see your point — and Djam Leelii was/is a fabulous album. Still gets regular play around here. I have your Rogue vinyl release of it plus the two later Mango/Palm CDs plus a cassette (which is somewhere around here — I know!). Me? Obsessed? Whatever makes you think that? Well, now you mention it, I see that "N'sel Fik" gets represented twice on the sleeve artwork, which seems very generous. That sleeve art does kind of get the accumulative juices flowing, however. No, no, no, I really am not obsessed!
kk wrote:looking forward to this one, especially after Howard's reassurance that it's "free of most of those nasty 1980s keyboard sounds"

Jonathan, you can find it for few dollars less on CDWow

Thank you both for reassurance and advice. Now, we'll see how I do with that little problem I seem to have of accumulative obsession.
Nigel w wrote:Was a bit premature on the release date -it's April 18. [ . . . ] It's a handsome-looking thing, too, with a nice 12 page booklet. So sad that Charlie himself never saw it come to fruition.

12 page booklet sounds especially good and/or useful.

And now I'm supposed to exercise patience? This is not a personality characteristic that goes well with accumulative obsession!

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:41 pm
by Jonathan E.

What a goldmine Con points us to! Quite overwhelming but fabulously worthwhile for anyone with historical interest in "World Music", whatever that is.

I'd just like to add a link to Nigel's posting about John Peel on African Music in 1975 and subsequent comments since Lewis R mentioned that he'd read those with interest:

http://www.charliegillett.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8778&p=50132&hilit=+John+Peel#p50132

It's particularly nice to read Charlie's words from back in the day.

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:41 pm
by Outerglobe Debbie Golt
Just to add a note of recognition and solace for the 1 year anniversary - 17/03


Looking forward to hearing the album - a nice kind of tribute anyway and good timing



Debbie

Re: Charlie's gone

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:28 am
by wastedpapiers
Good to see Charlie is still in everyone's thoughts one year on. Those compilations sound like ideal tributes to a man who is still greatly missed. A small tribute on my audio blog for those of you who know where to find it.

Michael